Interview with C.W. Hackensmith, July 1, 1975

Partial Transcript: Wh--wh--when did you first come? What year?

Segment Synopsis: C. W. Hackensmith talks about attending college in Illinois before coming to work at the University of Kentucky. He talks about the students' behavior and attitudes. He talks about the military drills that occurred at Woodland Park. Hackensmith describes Lexington in the 1860s, specifically the university property in town.

Keywords: "Country"; Ashland (Lexington, Ky.); College of Agriculture; Drinking; Fitness programs; Football; Fun; Good times; Kentucky University; M. E. Potter; Military; Military drills; Military training; Moral act; Ottawa (Ill.); Social events; University of Illinois; William H. Hanson; Woodland Park (Lexington, Ky.)

Subjects: College environment; College sports.; College students--Alcohol use; College students--Attitudes.; College students--Conduct of life.; College students--Social conditions; Lexington (Ky.)--History

Partial Transcript: What, uh, what other faculty members were here when you first came, other than Potter?

Segment Synopsis: Hackensmith talks about several instructors in the physical education program at UK. He talks about various buildings on campus, including the dormitories, gyms, and student center. He discusses the loss of practice space due to expansion and remodeling of the university.

Keywords: Alumni Gym; Building; Chem/Phys Building; Chemistry/Physics Building; Dormitories; Florence Stout; Jewell Hall; Play areas; Practice areas; Stadiums; Student Center; Swimming pools; Tennis courts; W. W. H. Mustaine; William H. Hanson; Women's gym

Subjects: College buildings.; College campuses.; College facilities.; College sports.; College teachers.; Educators; Universities and colleges--Faculty.

Partial Transcript: Hack, what, what was the State Association like when you first came here in, in the thirties?

Segment Synopsis: Hackensmith talks about his involvement with the State Association. He talks about the changes that occurred on campus after World War II. He talks about the rise in popularity of athletic sports like football and basketball.

Keywords: Adolph Rupp; Athletic teams; Athletics; Basketball; Bear Bryant; Co-educational service program; Football; Gymnastics; Louisville (Ky.); Orange Bowl; Sara Revell Estill; State Association; Villanova University; WWII; Women instructors

Subjects: College environment; College sports--Coaching; College sports.; Women in education--Kentucky--Lexington; Women in higher education.; Women--Education (Higher); World War, 1939-1945

Partial Transcript: I, I have, have little note down here to myself, and it said that--I said, "Times have changed. People have changed. I think our values have changed."

Segment Synopsis: Hackensmith talks about how teachers and students have changed over the years. He says that students are much more serious now than they used to be.

Keywords: Changes; Cooperation; High school; Job competition; Maturity; Modern dance; Philosophy; Quality; Serious

Subjects: College facilities.; College students--Attitudes.; College students--Conduct of life.; College teachers--Rating of.; Educators; Universities and colleges--Faculty.

Partial Transcript: Question. Uh, I'm just thinking here. First of all I'd like to know what your really--areas of specialization were, teaching.

Segment Synopsis: Hackensmith talks about his favorite sports to teach. He discusses his family background and how it influenced him not to go to college in New York.

Keywords: Bowling; Family background; Fathers; Fencing; Football; Intramural sports; Specialization; Turners

Subjects: College sports.; College teachers.; Educators; Families.; Family history.; Genealogy; Universities and colleges--Faculty.

Partial Transcript: I, I'm interested in Dr. Martha Carr a little myself too. Uh, about what time did she come to the university?

Segment Synopsis: Hackensmith talks about the instructors in physical education that he believes are the best in the field. He gives advice to those entering the profession. Hackensmith talks more about his favorite subjects to teach.

Keywords: Advice; Andrew Carson; Chairman pro-tem; Charlene Thomas; Dr. Hughes; Fencing; Folk dancing; Handball; History; Jesse Thomas; Josephine Cherry; Martha Carr; Sara Revell Estill; Stansbury; Tom McDonald; Tommy Samuels; Western Kentucky University (WKU)

Subjects: College sports--Coaching; College sports.; College teachers.; College teaching.; Educators; Universities and colleges--Faculty.

Partial Transcript: I, I've got an area here I'd like to touch on.

Segment Synopsis: Hackensmith talks about when the physical education department and the athletics department became separate entities at the University of Kentucky. He talks about President Donovan's involvement and how funds were raised. He talks about the rise of the UK Athletic Association. He discusses the split between physical education and the recreation department.

Keywords: Adolph Rupp; Athletics department; Bear Bryant; Dr. Herman Donovan; Funding; Fundraising; Helen King; Kentucky; M. E. Potter; Mary King Montgomery; Physical education; Recognition; Recreation department; Sara Revell Estill; Separation; University of Kentucky Athletics Association

Subjects: College administrators; College benefactors; College presidents; College sports--Coaching; College sports--Economic aspects--United States.; College sports.; College teachers.; Kentucky Wildcats (Basketball team); Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Faculty.

Partial Transcript: I think there's going to be a change in--there's going to be much more bicycling.

Segment Synopsis: Hackensmith talks about the rise and fall in popularity of certain sports, like tennis and gymnastics. He talks about boxing. He discusses the 1970s generation's interest in spectator sports.

Keywords: Boxing; Cooperation; Fads; Generations; Olympics; Research; Roman Empire; Specialization; Spectator sports; Trends

Subjects: Athletics; College sports--Coaching; College sports.; College teachers.; Universities and colleges--Faculty.

Partial Transcript: Here's a question. It's kind of off what we're talking about, but you know University of Kentucky athletically has never played many of the state schools unless it's in post-season tournaments.

Segment Synopsis: Hackensmith talks about why the University of Kentucky did not often play other schools from within the state, citing student riots and concerns over their reputation.

Keywords: Celebrations; Centre College; Football games; Kentucky University; Prestige; Riots; State schools; University of Cincinnati; University of Kentucky

Subjects: Campus violence; College athletes; College football players; College sports.; College students--Attitudes.; College students--Conduct of life.

Partial Transcript: I've--one other question here.

Segment Synopsis: Hackensmith talks more about the students' attitudes and the quality of students within the physical education program. He talks about the claim that physical education is an easy major and what the instructors did to dispel this thought.

Keywords: "Mountain people"; Easy majors; English; Graduate seminars; M. E. Potter; Physical education; Quality

Subjects: College environment; College majors; College students--Attitudes.; College students--Conduct of life.; College teachers--Social conditions; Educators; Universities and colleges--Curricula.; Universities and colleges--Faculty.

Partial Transcript: You know in several states now or in the past, women's sports, athletics--

Segment Synopsis: Hackensmith talks about why women's sports were not supported in Kentucky during the time they were becoming popular in other areas. He talks about the effect Billie Jean King's tennis match against Bobby Riggs had on people's opinions. He talks about women instructors at the University of Kentucky.

Keywords: Acceptable; Attitudes; Billie Jean King; Bobby Riggs; Ladylike; M. E. Potter; Marjorie; Mary King Montgomery; Sara Revell Estill; Social standing; Tennis; Women's athletics

Subjects: College athletes; College environment; College sports for women; College students--Social conditions; College teachers--Social conditions; Kentucky; Sex discrimination in higher education.; Sexism in higher education; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; Women in education--Kentucky--Lexington; Women in higher education.; Women--Education (Higher)

Partial Transcript: I'm trying to remember the basketball coach that was here before Rupp.

Segment Synopsis: Hackensmith talks about the beginnings of basketball as an athletic event at UK. He talks about several coaches and assistant coaches at UK and how they affected the game and the team. The interview is concluded.

Keywords: Assistant coaches; Basketball coaches; Basketball team; Foundation; Fundamentals; Joe Hall; John Mauer; McBrayer; Shively; W. W. H. Mustaine

Subjects: College sports--Coaching; College sports.; Kentucky Wildcats (Basketball team)