Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History

Interview with M.A. Schofman, February 11, 1976

Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History, University of Kentucky Libraries
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00:00:05 - Coming to the University of Kentucky in 1935

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Partial Transcript: The following is an unrehearsed interview with Dr. M. A. Schofman conducted by Charles Hay, assistant archivist of the University of Kentucky Library for the Faculty/Alumni Oral History Project.

Segment Synopsis: M.A. Schofman is introduced. He talks about his freshman year at UK in 1935 and his impressions of the university. He talks about some of the buildings on campus, including the dormitories and gyms. He talks about majoring in the pre-med program.

Keywords: Alumni Gym; Bands; Bradley Hall; Breckinridge Hall; Dormitories; Fraternity houses; Impressions; Medicine; Music; Pre-med program; Pre-medicine program; Stoll Field

Subjects: College choice; College environment; College facilities.; College freshmen; College majors; Student housing

GPS: View photo of M. A. Schofman from the 1939 University of Kentucky yearbook
Map Coordinates: http://kdl.kyvl.org/catalog/xt780g3gxv96_249
00:03:39 - Favorite professors / quality of the facilities

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Partial Transcript: Who were some of your favorite professors there? If you can recall.

Segment Synopsis: Schofman discusses some of his favorite professors at the University of Kentucky and the relationships between students and instructors. He gives his opinion on the quality of the laboratories and equipment at the university.

Keywords: Adequate; Chemistry; Dr. White; Equipment; Favorite professors; Lab work; Personal relationships; Quality; Science; State schools; William Funkhouser

Subjects: College environment; College facilities.; College students--Social conditions; College teachers--Social conditions; Educators; Universities and colleges--Faculty.

00:06:06 - Living arrangements / Greek system

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Partial Transcript: You lived in a dorm for a while, I suspect--

Segment Synopsis: Schofman talks about where he lived during the years he attended the University of Kentucky. He talks about his involvement in a fraternity and discusses the opinions towards the Greek organizations on campus. He talks about students' attitudes concerning their education.

Keywords: Apartments; Athletes; Dormitories; Education; Fraternity houses; Greek letter organizations; Greek system; Kappa Chapter; Phi Kappa Tau fraternity; Serious; Studying; Walking

Subjects: College environment; College freshmen; College students--Attitudes.; College students--Conduct of life.; College students--Social conditions; Greek letter societies.; Student housing

00:11:26 - Clubs and organizations at the University of Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: Uh, y--were there any other organizations? Were any religious organizations were active on campus when you were there?

Segment Synopsis: Schofman talks about religious organizations, athletic events, and clubs he was involved in during his time at the university. He talks about the cost of tuition when he was a student.

Keywords: Ball games; Cheerleaders; Church; Clubs; Educational; Guidance; Homecoming; Medical school; Music; Prior Pre-Medical Society; Religious families; Religious organizations; Scholarships; Tuition

Subjects: College athletes; College costs.; College environment; College majors; College students--Conduct of life.; College students--Social conditions

00:15:17 - President McVey / social events

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Partial Transcript: Uh, what kind of relationship do you think the student body had with Dr. McVey?

Segment Synopsis: Schofman talks about how students felt about Dr. McVey as the president of the university. He talks about the types of clothes the students wore to class. He describes the social events for students, which were mainly dances held at various locations.

Keywords: "Ivory tower president"; Alumni Gym; Big bands; Bureaucratic problems; Coats; Dances; Dr. Frank McVey; Formal; Fraternity dances; Invitations; Joyland; Payment; Personal relationships; Retirement; Social activities; Social events; Student Union building; Ties

Subjects: Campus size; Clothing and dress.; College administrators; College campuses.; College environment; College presidents; College students--Attitudes.; College students--Conduct of life.; College students--Social conditions; Fashion.; Greek letter societies.; Universities and colleges--Administration.

00:21:15 - Role of women at the University of Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: So the role of women on campus, uh, you know it's changed--

Segment Synopsis: Schofman talks about the restrictions placed on female students during his time at the university. He talks about the strict rules enforced by the Dean of Women and the Dean of Men, and the editorials that were written in the student newspaper attempting to change the policies.

Keywords: Co-ed dormitories; Cohabitation; Dean Jones; Dean Sarah Blanding; Dean of Women; Dormitories; Editors; Kentucky Kernel newspaper; Professors; Restrictions; Role of women; Rules; Strict; Trouble

Subjects: College discipline; College environment; College students--Conduct of life.; College students--Social conditions; Sex discrimination in higher education.; Sexism in higher education; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Women in education--Kentucky--Lexington; Women in higher education.; Women--Education (Higher)

00:25:12 - Interest in politics on campus

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Partial Transcript: How about the local, state, and national politics, uh, th, the--on campus, uh--

Segment Synopsis: Schofman talks about students' interest in state and national politics. He talks about meeting Governor Happy Chandler while dating his daughter. He talks about campus politics, particularly between fraternities. He discusses the students' views on Franklin Roosevelt and the New Deal programs.

Keywords: Baseball commissioner; CCC; Dating; Daughters; FDR; Fraternity politics; Governor Happy Chandler; Involvement; John Young Brown; Kentucky Kernel newspaper; Marcella Chandler; Memory; Politically-minded; Taxes; WPA

Subjects: Chandler, Happy, 1898-1991; Civilian Conservation Corps (U.S.); College environment; College students--Attitudes.; College students--Conduct of life.; College students--Political activity.; College students--Social conditions; New Deal, 1933-1939; Politics and government; Roosevelt, Franklin D. (Franklin Delano), 1882-1945; United States. Works Progress Administration.

00:31:34 - Professors' political views

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Partial Transcript: ?? we were just talking about, uh, some, uh, opinions toward F.D.R.

Segment Synopsis: Schofman discusses the claim that many professors are liberals who try to influence their students' political views. He talks about how this trend has changed over the years. He talks more about the opinions on campus concerning the New Deal programs.

Keywords: Changes; Conservative; Controversy; Demonstrations; Great Depression; Influence; Kentucky; Law students; Liberal; May Day; National Recovery Administration (NRA); Nazism; Political views; Professors; Socialism; Speakers

Subjects: College environment; College teachers--Political activity; College teachers--Social conditions; Educators; New Deal, 1933-1939; Politics and government; Roosevelt, Franklin D. (Franklin Delano), 1882-1945; Universities and colleges--Faculty.

00:38:02 - University's relationship with the Lexington community

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Partial Transcript: What about the, uh, university's relation with the Lexington community?

Segment Synopsis: Schofman talks about how the community of Lexington felt about the university and the students during his time there. He talks about whether the students caused trouble in town.

Keywords: Acceptance; Community; Drinking; Receptive; Relationships; Trouble

Subjects: College environment; College students--Alcohol use; College students--Conduct of life.; College students--Social conditions; Lexington (Ky.).; University towns

00:39:33 - University of Kentucky athletics

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Partial Transcript: How important were athletic--athletics on campus?

Segment Synopsis: Schofman talks about the dominance of basketball as the university's main sport. He talks about football games continuing to draw large crowds, even when the team was not successful. He talks about being a cheerleader and which sporting events the cheerleaders would attend. He discusses the claim that too much emphasis is put on athletics at the expense of academics.

Keywords: Academics; Adolph Rupp; Alumni Gym; Athletic events; Athletic teams; Athletics; Baseball; Basketball; Bear Bryant; Boxing; Cheerleaders; Coach Kirwan; Crowds; Dances; Dr. Albert Kirwan; Emphasis; Entertainment; Football games; Football players; Funding; Michigan State University; Pep rallies; Professors; Promotion; Publicity; Social events; State University of Kentucky (SUKY); Tennis; Track and field

Subjects: College athletes; College environment; College sports--Economic aspects--United States.; College sports.; College students--Attitudes.; College students--Conduct of life.; College students--Social conditions; Universities and colleges--Public relations

00:46:17 - University libraries / impact of a college education

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Partial Transcript: How would you assess the role of the library?

Segment Synopsis: Schofman discusses the quality of the libraries on campus during his time as a student. He talks about the ways a college education can change a person, and tells a story that demonstrates that the changes can be social as well as educational.

Keywords: Adequate; Changes; College education; Drinking; Fraternities; Growing; Hangouts; Improvements; M. I. King Library; Main Spring Bar; Meeting people; New library; Outlook; Phi Kappa Tau fraternity; Social skills; Socializing; Study rooms; Wooden leg

Subjects: Academic libraries.; College environment; College graduates; College students--Alcohol use; College students--Attitudes.; College students--Conduct of life.; College students--Social conditions; Greek letter societies.; Universities and colleges--Alumni and alumnae.; University of Kentucky. Libraries

00:52:41 - Changes at the University of Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: Well as an alumni this is interesting, uh, you've seen changes university through the years, I'm sure. Have these changes been good, bad, or what?

Segment Synopsis: Schofman discusses how the university has changed since his time as a student. He talks about the growth of the university, which he says has led to a deterioration of the relationship between students and professors as well as a decline in quality of education. The interview is concluded.

Keywords: Changes; Class size; Closeness; Control; Education; Personal relationships; Post-graduate school; Professors; State universities; University of Iowa

Subjects: Campus size; College campuses.; College environment; College students--Social conditions; College teachers--Social conditions; Educators; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; Universities and colleges--Ratings and rankings.