Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History

Interview with Eleanor Cammack Lummis, June 1, 1977

Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History, University of Kentucky Libraries
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00:00:11 - Decision to attend the university of Kentucky and first impressions

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Partial Transcript: The following is an unrehearsed interview with Mrs. Eleanor Cammack Lummis, a 1924 graduate of the University of Kentucky.

Segment Synopsis: Eleanor Lummis is introduced. She talks about why she decided to attend UK, and gives her impressions of the school. She talks about the subjects she majored in, the quality of her education, and some of her professors.

Keywords: Family; History; Impressions; Interests; Judge William Thornton Lafferty; Law; Political science; Professors; Quality of education; Relationship with students; Role of women; Small towns

Subjects: College choice; College environment; College majors; College students--Social conditions; College teachers--Rating of.; College teachers--Social conditions; Educators; Lexington (Ky.)

00:04:39 - Greek organizations

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Partial Transcript: Were you a member of a sorority at, uh--

Segment Synopsis: Lummis talks about joining the Alpha Xi Delta sorority. She talks about where she lived during her time at the university. She talks about attitudes towards the Greek organizations on campus. She discusses the social events available for students.

Keywords: Alpha Xi Delta sorority; Attitudes; Bands; Buell Armory; Dances; Dormitories; EKU; Greek letter organizations; Leadership; Live music; Living conditions; Social events; Social life; Sponsors

Subjects: College administrators; College environment; College students--Conduct of life.; College students--Social conditions; Eastern Kentucky University; Greek letter societies.; Universities and colleges--Administration.

00:08:53 - Relationships between upperclassmen and underclassmen

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Partial Transcript: Do you recall the, uh, annual tug-of-war between the freshmen and the sophomores?

Segment Synopsis: Lummis and the interviewer talk about the Freshman-Sophomore Tug-of-War held on campus. They talk about whether hazing of freshmen was an issue, and discuss the mandatory activities for freshmen students.

Keywords: Danger; Football games; Freshman-Sophomore Tug-of-War; Requirements; Rules; Shaving heads

Subjects: College administrators; College discipline; College environment; College freshmen; College sports.; College students--Attitudes.; College students--Conduct of life.; College students--Social conditions; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Faculty.

00:11:09 - Relationship between the university and the Lexington community

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Partial Transcript: How about opportunities to attend cultural activities, such as concerts, and plays, and lectures?

Segment Synopsis: Lummis discusses the cultural events available for students, which were often held off-campus. She talks about the relationship between UK and the community of Lexington. She discusses whether students were interested in politics.

Keywords: Attendance; Cultural activities; Interest; Lafayette Hotel; Lexington Opera House; Misbehavior; Misconduct; National politics; Phoenix Hotel; Rowdiness; Rowdyism; Woodland Auditorium

Subjects: College environment; College students--Attitudes.; College students--Conduct of life.; College students--Social conditions; Universities and colleges--Public relations; University towns

00:13:31 - University library / controversy over evolution / role of women

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Partial Transcript: Do you remember much about the university library while you were a student?

Segment Synopsis: Lummis discusses the quality of the library at the University of Kentucky. She and the interviewer discuss some of the key players in the controversy over the teaching of evolution, including John Scopes who was a student at UK. Lummis talks about some of the female faculty members she knew.

Keywords: Adequate; Busy; Controversy; Dean Paul P. Boyd; Dean Sarah Blanding; Evolution; Generations; Mary Frances Jewell McVey; Role of women; Scopes Trial; Students' needs; William Jennings Bryan

Subjects: Academic libraries.; College environment; College facilities.; College teachers--Social conditions; Educators; Scopes, John Thomas; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; University of Kentucky. Libraries; Women in education--Kentucky--Lexington; Women in higher education.; Women--Education (Higher)

00:16:49 - Dropping out of UK to teach

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Partial Transcript: How influential was the Kentucky Kernel, the campus newspaper?

Segment Synopsis: Lummis talks about the role of the campus newspaper, the Kentucky Kernel. She talks about leaving the University of Kentucky for several years to teach.

Keywords: Changes; Dropping out; EKU; Kentucky Kernel newspaper; Leaving

Subjects: College publications; College student newspapers and periodicals; College students--Attitudes.; College students--Employment.; Eastern Kentucky University; Educators; Teachers--Kentucky; Teaching; Universities and colleges--Periodicals.

00:18:58 - President McVey

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Partial Transcript: Now Frank McVey was president of the university when you were, uh, there.

Segment Synopsis: Lummis discusses Dr. Frank McVey's popularity as president of the university. She talks about a law class that he taught. She discusses how he changed after marrying Frances Jewell.

Keywords: Dr. Frank McVey; International law; Married; Mary Frances Jewell McVey; Popularity; Relationship with students; Teas

Subjects: College administrators--Rating of; College environment; College presidents; College presidents' spouses; College students--Attitudes.; College students--Social conditions; College teachers--Rating of.; College teaching.; Educators; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Faculty.

00:20:31 - Athletics

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Partial Transcript: Now was, was the James Cammack who graduated in 1924 your brother?

Segment Synopsis: Lummis talks about her brother James Cammack who played football at UK. The interviewer asks if she knew Price McLean, a football player who suffered a fatal injury. She discusses her relationships with Happy Chandler and Wickliffe Moore.

Keywords: Artists; Athletics; Brothers; Classmates; Death; Governor Happy Chandler; James Cammack; Law school; Price McLean; Wickliffe Moore

Subjects: College athletes; College facilities.; College football players; College sports.; College students.

00:22:51 - Impact of her college education

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Partial Transcript: It is often said that a college education and experience changes a person greatly.

Segment Synopsis: Lummis discusses how her college education and experiences changed her life. She talks about whether she keeps in touch with the university or any of her classmates.

Keywords: Alumni relations; Changes; College education; College experiences; Contact; Freedom; Interference; Small towns; University of Kentucky Alumni Association

Subjects: College environment; College graduates; College student parents; College students--Attitudes.; College students--Conduct of life.; College students--Social conditions; Universities and colleges--Alumni and alumnae.

00:25:03 - Astronomy class

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Partial Transcript: Well those are all of the prepared questions that I have.

Segment Synopsis: Lummis talks about her experiences in an astronomy class which was held in a building far away from the main campus.

Keywords: Astronomy; Constellations; Late to class; Professors

Subjects: College buildings.; College campuses.; College students--Attitudes.; College students--Conduct of life.; College teachers.; Educators; Universities and colleges--Faculty.

00:27:13 - Women in law school

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Partial Transcript: And then, uh, there were a few girls--very few girls studying law at that time.

Segment Synopsis: Lummis talks more about taking law classes at UK and discusses some of the women who were studying to become lawyers, which she says was rare at the time.

Keywords: Attorneys; Careers; Contact; Law school; Lawyers; Parking spaces

Subjects: College environment; College majors; College students--Conduct of life.; College students--Social conditions; University of Kentucky. College of Law; Women in education--Kentucky--Lexington; Women in higher education.; Women--Education (Higher)

00:29:51 - Class reunion

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Partial Transcript: You was--attended the reunion. You should tell them about you went back for the reunion a few years ago.

Segment Synopsis: Lummis talks about her experiences attending her 50th anniversary reunion in 1974. The interview is concluded.

Keywords: Class reunions; Classmates; University of Kentucky Alumni Association

Subjects: College graduates; Universities and colleges--Alumni and alumnae.