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00:00:01 - Part I of the interview begins--Impressions of the University of Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: Like the myths and reality of Kentucky history itself, the Kentucky River flows on incessantly unable to separate the pure from the polluted, thus making an uneasy promise to the people of its valleys.

Segment Synopsis: Dr. Thomas D. Clark is introduced. He talks about coming to the University of Kentucky as a graduate student, and his first impressions of the campus, faculty, and classrooms.

Keywords: Charlie Curtis; Classrooms; Duke University; Friends; Graduate students; Impressions; Masters degrees; Professor Briar; Scholarships; University of Mississippi

Subjects: Campus size; Campus visits; College buildings.; College campuses.; College environment; College facilities.; College students--Attitudes.; College teachers--Rating of.; Educators; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; Universities and colleges--Finance; Universities and colleges--Ratings and rankings.; University of Kentucky

00:04:13 - Survey of University of Kentucky library collections / University of Kentucky president Frank McVey

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Partial Transcript: In doing my masters thesis I had become acquainted with the libraries around in the Central Kentucky area.

Segment Synopsis: Clark talks about the quality of the University of Kentucky library and how he worked to improve it. He talks about UK president Frank McVey and his effort to turn UK from a land grant college into a university.

Keywords: Doctoral programs; Dr. Frank McVey; Duke University; Fired; Henry S. Barker; History department; James K. Patterson; Land grant colleges; Leadership; Library catalog; Library collections; Personality; Political science department; Surveying; Transition period

Subjects: Academic libraries.; College administrators--Rating of; College environment; College facilities.; College presidents; College teachers--Social conditions; College teaching.; Educators; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; Universities and colleges--Ratings and rankings.; Universities and colleges--Research; University of Kentucky. Libraries

00:08:48 - Collecting Kentucky history

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Partial Transcript: In your work in collecting, uh, research materials, archival materials, uh, you traveled all over the state.

Segment Synopsis: Clark talks about his experiences traveling across Kentucky to collect papers and records concerning Kentucky history. He talks about the roads built by the C.C.C. and how they connected isolated parts of the state. He talks about some of the opposition he faced while attempting to collect documents for the library.

Keywords: Civilian Conservation Corps (C.C.C.); Conditions; Courthouses; Dean Alvin Evans; Donating papers; Donations; Eastern Kentucky; Government documents; Great Depression; History of Kentucky; Isolation; Law school; Library catalog; Library collections; Maysville (Ky.); Opposition; Papers; Primitive; Records; Roads; Travels

Subjects: Academic libraries.; Depressions--1929--Kentucky; Historians.; Kentucky--History; United States. Works Progress Administration.; Universities and colleges--Public relations; University of Kentucky. College of Law; University of Kentucky. Libraries

00:16:26 - Kentucky's transitional period

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Partial Transcript: Wouldn't you say it's, uh--it would be fair to say that, uh, probably never again will a Kentucky historian have the opportunity to get to know the state the way you did as a young historian--

Segment Synopsis: Clark talks about Kentucky's transition during the Great Depression, a period during which many laborers left the state to work in more industrial areas.

Keywords: Agrarian society; Coal mining industry; Extension courses; Frontiers; Great Depression; Laborers; Oil industry; Out-migration; Subsistence farming; Transition period

Subjects: Agriculture--Kentucky; Depressions--1929--Kentucky; Education--Kentucky; Industries

00:19:48 - More on collecting Kentucky history

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Partial Transcript: When you were traveling around the state, uh, meeting Kentuckians and, uh, talking with them about giving their materials for research to the, to the university, did you find that Kentuckians were receptive to this?

Segment Synopsis: Clark talks more about collecting records for the university library and tells stories about the people he met during his travels. He talks more about the opposition he faced.

Keywords: Antagonism; Attitudes; Centre College; Dislike; Donating papers; Donations; Dr. Frank McVey; Government documents; History of Kentucky; Indiana; Information; Library catalog; Library collections; Neville Miller; Opposition; Records; Respect; Tips; U.S. documents

Subjects: Academic libraries.; College administrators; College presidents; Historians.; Kentucky--History; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Public relations; University of Kentucky. Libraries

00:29:18 - Part II of the interview begins--Writing books

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Partial Transcript: The first scholarly history of the Commonwealth of Kentucky was written in 1937 by Dr. Thomas D. Clark.

Segment Synopsis: Clark talks about some of the books he has written and discusses the themes of his books. He talks about some of the topics still left to be researched, including the history of African Americans in Kentucky and the role of women in the state.

Keywords: "Agrarian Kentucky"; "The Emerging South"; "The Rampaging Frontier: Manners and Humors of Pioneer Days in the South and Middle West"; "Travels in the New South"; "Travels in the Old South"; African American history; Agriculture industry; Black history; Coal industry; Constitutional history; Frontiers; History of Kentucky; Kentucky history; Prentice Hall; Publishing; Role of women; Tobacco industry; World War II; Writing books

Subjects: Academic libraries.; College publications; College textbooks; Historians.; Kentucky--History; Universities and colleges--Research; University of Kentucky. Libraries; World War, 1939-1945

00:38:53 - Motivation to write

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Partial Transcript: Course it's, it's well-known how much you have written on, on Kentucky history and I think, uh, the question that comes to mind is, how did you find time to write so many books when you have so many other ac--activities and interests, uh, besides writing?

Segment Synopsis: Clark talks about some of the factors that influenced him to write, and discusses how he continued to teach and participate in other activities while also writing his books.

Keywords: Duke University; English professors; Influence; Mothers; Motivation; Newspaper reporters; Writing books

Subjects: College publications; College teachers--Workload; College teaching.; Educators; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; Universities and colleges--Research

00:43:01 - Book Thieves Club

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Partial Transcript: Now when you first came to UK--(coughs)--there wasn't a lot of emphasis on publishing by, uh--

Segment Synopsis: Clark talks about a group of professors at UK who encouraged writing and publishing, called the "Book Thieves."

Keywords: Atmosphere; Attitudes; Authors; Book Thieves Club; Charles Staples; Discussion; Dr. Frank McVey; Dr. John S. Chamber; Emphasis; J. Winston Coleman; Judge Samuel M. Wilson; Professional associations; William H. Townsend

Subjects: College administrators; College presidents; College publications; College teachers--Social conditions; College teachers--Workload; College teaching.; Educators; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; Universities and colleges--Research

00:46:12 - University of Kentucky history department during his time as chairman

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Partial Transcript: Well of course in your role as, uh, chairman of UK's history department for 23 years you did a great deal to build that department.

Segment Synopsis: Clark talks about how he improved the University of Kentucky history department during times of low funding and salary limitations. He talks about putting an emphasis on research and requiring all professors to teach freshman classes. He talks about some of the professors in the department.

Keywords: Ambitions; Contributions; Department chairman; Dr. Albert Kirwan; Dr. Carl Cone; Dr. Frank McVey; Dreaming; Freshmen; Funding; Head of department; Historians; History department; Leadership; Organizations; Participation; Professor Holman Hamilton; Professor James Hopkins; Professor Shelby McCloy; Professor W. Clement Eaton; Professors; Quality of education; Reputations; Rotating chairmanship; Salary limitations; Scholarship; Southern Historical Association; Undergraduates; University of North Carolina (UNC); University presses

Subjects: College administrators; College department heads; College presidents; College publications; College teachers--Rating of.; College teachers--Salaries, etc.; College teachers--Workload; College teaching.; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; Universities and colleges--Finance; Universities and colleges--Ratings and rankings.; Universities and colleges--Research; University of Kentucky

00:58:40 - Part III of the interview begins--Historians' involvement in social issues

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Partial Transcript: A new State Library and Archives building is being completed in Frankfort overlooking the Kentucky River to replace the present facility at Berry Hill.

Segment Synopsis: Clark discusses his opinions on whether historians should become involved in social issues and politics, and discusses their relationship with the community.

Keywords: Attitudes; Bias; Birthplace; Community; Contributions; Influence; Native Kentuckians; Objectivity; Obligations; Participation; Policies; Professors; Relationships; Responsibilities; Scholars; Social activism; Social issues; Society; Subjects

Subjects: College publicity; College teachers--Social conditions; Educators; Historians.; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; Universities and colleges--Public relations

01:06:31 - Kentucky State Library and Archives

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Partial Transcript: One of the issues or causes that you've fought long and hard for has been the State Library and Archives.

Segment Synopsis: Clark talks about his role in the improvement of the Kentucky State Library and Archives and why these institutions are important for the state.

Keywords: Archival laws; Collections; Funding; Library services; Management; Memorial Hall; Obligations; Preservation; Quality; State archives; State records

Subjects: Documents libraries; Government libraries; Libraries and community.; Libraries and continuing education; Library finance; State libraries; University of Kentucky

01:12:17 - Revising the Kentucky constitution

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Partial Transcript: Another cause that you've been involved in over the years, uh, was the attempt to revise the Kentucky constitution.

Segment Synopsis: Clark talks about why he wanted to revise the Kentucky state constitution and the opposition he faced.

Keywords: Conventions; Objections; Problems; Revisions; State legislature

Subjects: Constitutional law; Kentucky. Constitution (1891); Legislation; Politics and government; Voting; World War, 1939-1945

01:17:04 - Civil rights in Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: I guess because of its, uh, place in the nation as a border state, uh, a lot of people have looked to Kentucky to see how civil rights has been handled, uh, here in this state during the centuries.

Segment Synopsis: Clark talks about Kentucky's progress in the realm of civil rights and discusses Kentuckians' opinions on the issue.

Keywords: Day Law; Governor Lawrence Wetherby; Kentuckians; Lawsuits; Lyman T. Johnson; Undergraduates

Subjects: African American college students--Social conditions; African Americans--Education (Higher); African Americans--Education--Kentucky--Lexington; African Americans--Legal status, laws, etc.; Civil rights movements--United States; Civil rights--Law and legislation; College environment; College students, Black; College students--Attitudes.; Discrimination in higher education; Educational change--Kentucky; Lexington (Ky.)--Race relations.; Minorities in higher education; Segregation in higher education.; United States--Trials, litigation, etc.; Universities and colleges--Admission

01:20:31 - Financial problems in the Kentucky education system

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Partial Transcript: As you well know, uh, in Kentucky today education is suffering financially, uh, as it has a number of times during its history.

Segment Synopsis: Clark talks about the funding problems for education in the state of Kentucky, but says that money is not the only factor that makes a good educational system.

Keywords: Commitment; Contributions; Financial problems; Funding; Money; Political influence; Public schools; Quality of education

Subjects: Education--Finance--Kentucky; Education--Kentucky; Educators; Government aid to education--Kentucky

01:24:25 - Oral history

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Partial Transcript: Well Dr. Clark, as you know, uh, this interview commemorates our 1000th oral history interview at the UK, uh, library.

Segment Synopsis: Clark talks about his opinions on oral history and his involvement with the Kentucky Oral History Commission. The interview is concluded.

Keywords: "Common man"; Historical significance; Interviewers; Interviews

Subjects: Historians.; Kentucky Oral History Commission; Kentucky--History; Oral history.