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00:00:05 - University of Kentucky Centennial celebration

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Partial Transcript: Dr. Oswald let's, uh, let’s begin this afternoon’s session, if it’s okay with you, talking a little bit about the, uh, the Centennial.

Segment Synopsis: Oswald discusses his involvement in the planning and execution of the celebration for the University of Kentucky's 100th anniversary. He talks about the committees that were created to plan the Centennial and the people who were involved. He talks about the importance of the event for the university and the wider community.

Keywords: Centennial; Committee of Fifteen; Convocation; Dr. Thomas D. Clark; Opportunities; Planning; Recognition; Student committees

Subjects: College administrators; College histories; College presidents; College publicity; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Professional staff

00:05:32 - Prestigious guests invited to the Centennial

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Partial Transcript: Uh, uh, it was very important to, uh, the faculty group, and this committee, uh, as well as to me, to, uh, have, uh, uh, some activities throughout the year, uh, and certainly, uh, uh, some very important activities, uh, beside the, uh, uh, the, uh, so to speaks, uh, Centennial Convocation--

Segment Synopsis: Oswald talks about the important people that were invited to participate in the Centennial celebration, including alumni, politicians, presidents of other universities, and President of the United States Lyndon Johnson.

Keywords: Centennial; Convocation; Governor Edward T. Breathitt; Importance; Indiana University; Politicians; Senator John Sherman Cooper; Thruston Morton; University of North Carolina; Western Kentucky University

Subjects: Campus visits; College benefactors; College histories; College publicity; Johnson, Lyndon B. (Lyndon Baines), 1908-1973; Universities and colleges--Alumni and alumnae.

00:10:43 - Preparing for Lyndon Johnson's arrival to the ceremony

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Partial Transcript: To continue with the, uh, to continue with the, uh, uh, with the, the Centennial, we were, uh--the, the, the first clue I had that, uh, that, uh, uh, was, uh--even before Breathitt had called me, that, uh, that, uh, uh, Johnson would be coming, uh, or would likely be coming...

Segment Synopsis: Oswald talks about how he learned that Johnson would be attending UK's Centennial celebration. He talks about the events that were happening nationally and internationally around the time of the event. He discusses the plans that were made for the president's involvement in the convocation.

Keywords: Awards; Bands; Centennial; Convocation; Joe Barr; Kelly Thompson; Memorial Coliseum; Operation Rolling Thunder; Personality; Planning; Plans; Preparation; President of the United States; Schedules; Speeches

Subjects: Campus visits; College administrators; College presidents; Johnson, Lyndon B. (Lyndon Baines), 1908-1973; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Vietnam War, 1961-1975

00:18:59 - President Lyndon Johnson's speech

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Partial Transcript: But I really wasn’t all that worried until I really met the president. Uh, uh, uh, he, uh, showed up--by the time he showed up, I think, uh, A.D. was at the “M’s”.

Segment Synopsis: Oswald talks about Johnson's early arrival to the Centennial convocation. He talks about Johnson's desire to give his speech immediately, which disrupted the original schedule of the ceremony. Oswald discusses the stress this caused him, and talks about how he and others reacted to the situation.

Keywords: A.D. Albright; Awards; Benediction; Centennial; Convocation; John Sherman Cooper; Memorial Coliseum; Personality; Plans; Preparation; Schedules; Speeches

Subjects: Campus visits; College administrators; College presidents; Johnson, Lady Bird, 1912-2007; Johnson, Lyndon B. (Lyndon Baines), 1908-1973; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Vietnam War, 1961-1975

00:36:01 - Results of the Centennial convocation

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Partial Transcript: And, and of course, uh, when it was all over, uh, uh--oh you just read the Collegiate the next day--uh, the, uh, the Kernel.

Segment Synopsis: Oswald talks about the article that was written about the Centennial ceremony by the Kentucky Kernel. He talks about his conversation with Ladybird Johnson about President Johnson's behavior at the ceremony. He talks about why Johnson may have been preoccupied at the ceremony and why he deviated from his original plan.

Keywords: Centennial; Convocation; Kentucky Kernel newspaper; Preoccupied; Spindletop

Subjects: Campus visits; College administrators; College presidents; Johnson, Lady Bird, 1912-2007; Johnson, Lyndon B. (Lyndon Baines), 1908-1973; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Vietnam War, 1961-1975

00:40:10 - Centennial conferences and social events

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Partial Transcript: And then there were other events and, uh, I know you mentioned earlier, I don't know if it was on tape or not, the distinguished professors you brought in.

Segment Synopsis: Oswald talks about the academic conferences that were held as part of the celebration of the University of Kentucky Centennial. He talks about the distinguished scholars that were invited to the conferences. He talks about the social events that were also part of the celebration. He talks about his vision for the purpose of the Centennial, which included promotion of the university's academic programs. He talks about the cost of the Centennial and whether he received any criticism for the expense.

Keywords: "Golden era of higher education"; "The University, 2000 A.D."; Bicentennial; Caliber; Celebrations; Centennial; Centennial Ball; Changes; College of the Bible; Community colleges; Conferences; Cost; Criticism; Distinguished professors; General funds; Grand march; Humanities; Involvement; Law building; Nobel laureates; Operation Rolling Thunder; Publishing; Recognition; Reflection; Scholars; Sciences; Social Events; Sponsorship; Student Centennial committee

Subjects: Campus visits; College benefactors; College publicity; Johnson, Lyndon B. (Lyndon Baines), 1908-1973; Korean War, 1950-1953; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Alumni and alumnae.; Universities and colleges--Finance; Vietnam War, 1961-1975

00:50:53 - University of Kentucky's past

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Partial Transcript: Do you think that, uh, at this point in your career at UK, because of the Centennial did that give you a, a, a, a ,a better, uh, understanding or maybe a, a better appreciation for the sense of history of the university?

Segment Synopsis: Oswald talks about what he knew of the university's history before his involvement in the Centennial celebration. He talks about his attempts to break away from the way the university operated in the past. He talks about his relationship with former president Frank Dickey.

Keywords: Changes; Dr. Frank Dickey; Dr. Herman Donovan; History; Lyman Ginger; Past; Suggestions; Traditions

Subjects: Campus planning.; College administrators; College administrators--Rating of; College presidents; Educational change--Kentucky; Universities and colleges--Administration.

00:55:52 - Integration of academic programs at the University of Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: Let’s talk for just a few minutes about, uh, civil rights and the integration of the University.

Segment Synopsis: Oswald talks about his view during his presidency that the University of Kentucky should make more of an effort to integrate. He talks about why there was not as much outside pressure on UK as there was at other institutions. He talks about the faculty's response to the idea of integration and affirmative action. He talks about the change from acceptance to active recruitment of black students.

Keywords: Acceptance; Affirmative Action; Attitudes; Community colleges; Desegregation; External pressure; King scholarships; Martin Luther King, Jr.; Plans; Progress; Reactions; Recruitment; Response; Support

Subjects: African American college students--Social conditions; African American college students.; African Americans--Civil rights--Kentucky; African Americans--Education--Kentucky--Lexington; College administrators; College environment; College integration; College students, Black; College students--Social conditions; College teachers--Social conditions; Discrimination in higher education; Educators; Minorities in higher education; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; University of Kentucky

01:04:06 - Attempting to merge the University of Kentucky with Kentucky State College

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Partial Transcript: First of all, I was very fond of Carl Hill, who was president of Kentucky State.

Segment Synopsis: Oswald discusses why he wanted to merge the University of Kentucky and Kentucky State College. He talks about why this idea did not come to fruition.

Keywords: Athletics; Black faculty members; Black identity; Carl Hill; Desegregation; Mergers; Planning; Southern; University of Louisville; Visibility

Subjects: African American college students.; Campus planning.; College administrators; College integration; College presidents; College teachers, Black; Discrimination in higher education; Kentucky State University; Kentucky State University--Presidents; Minorities in higher education; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; Universities and colleges--Ratings and rankings.; University of Kentucky

01:10:16 - Acceptance of black students and faculty

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Partial Transcript: Now you--there are notes in your papers, uh, uh, where you're asking your staff to, uh, set up meetings in the black community in Lexington--

Segment Synopsis: Oswald talks about whether he thinks the first black students admitted to UK felt comfortable there. He discusses the impact of the community college system on the number of black students at UK. He talks about the first black faculty member at the university, and whether he actively recruited African American instructors.

Keywords: Acceptance; Awareness; Bill Turner; Black community; Black faculty members; Community colleges; Human Rights Committee; Joseph Scott; P.G. Peeples; Professors; Race relations; Recruitment

Subjects: African American college students--Social conditions; African American college students.; African Americans--Education--Kentucky--Lexington; College administrators; College environment; College integration; College students, Black; College students--Social conditions; College teachers, Black; College teachers--Social conditions; Discrimination in higher education; Educators; Minorities in higher education; Race relations--Kentucky--Lexington; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; University of Kentucky

01:15:29 - Integration of athletic programs at the University of Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: But I--le--let me just say, that I think my--what I, what I did in athletics, uh, uh, uh, it was not only, uh, not, not only my efforts in the, uh--which were unsuccessful in basketball to, uh, uh, convince, uh, uh, uh, Rupp and, and, and Harry Lancaster...

Segment Synopsis: Oswald talks about his impressions of coach Adolph Rupp in relation to issues of race. He talks about why Rupp was reluctant to recruit black players for the basketball team. Oswald talks about his own experiences visiting potential players in order to recruit them for UK. He talks about the first African American football player recruited at UK, and discusses Greg Page, another black player who suffered an injury during a football game that resulted in his death.

Keywords: Adolph Rupp; Athletics; Basketball; Basketball players; Death; Derogatory; Desegregation; Football players; Funerals; Greg Page; Injuries; Lawsuits; Leaders; Lew Alcindor; Nat Northington; Racial slurs; Racism; Recruitment; Southern; Wes Unseld

Subjects: African American college students--Social conditions; African American college students.; African Americans--Education--Kentucky--Lexington; College athletes; College environment; College integration; College sports--Coaching; College sports--Scouting; College sports.; College students, Black; College students--Social conditions; Discrimination in higher education; Kentucky Wildcats (Basketball team); Minorities in higher education; Universities and colleges--Administration.

01:28:10 - More on the integration of athletic programs at the University of Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: I wanted to go back to, um--continue on with the talking about the athletics.

Segment Synopsis: Oswald continues discussing the integration of athletics at UK and the recruitment of African American athletes. He talks about Governor Breathitt's involvement in the recruitment of players. Oswald continues to discuss his opinion of coach Adolph Rupp, including his personality, coaching style and ability, and disregard for academics at the university.

Keywords: Academics; Adolph Rupp; Alumni; Athletics; Attitudes; Awards; Basketball players; Butch Beard; Desegregation; Disagreement; Discipline; Ego; Governor Edward T. Breathitt; Jeff Mullins; Overpaid; Pickets; Power; Prejudice; Pressure; Recruiting; Recruitment; University of Louisville

Subjects: African American college students--Social conditions; African American college students.; African Americans--Education--Kentucky--Lexington; College athletes; College environment; College integration; College sports--Coaching; College sports--Scouting; College sports.; College students, Black; College students--Social conditions; College teachers--Salaries, etc.; Discrimination in higher education; Kentucky Wildcats (Basketball team); Minorities in higher education; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Faculty.

01:40:00 - Charlie Bradshaw

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Partial Transcript: Bra--I had more problems with Bradshaw from the s--from the public relations standpoint because Bradshaw was, was always talking "total athletics" or "total football".

Segment Synopsis: Oswald discusses his relationship with football coach Charlie Bradshaw, and their disagreement over the importance of athletic programs and academic programs at the university. He talks about why he shut down the "football houses", dormitories where the football players lived together. He discusses an incident in which Bradshaw held a closed practice session and several players were injured, and discusses the investigation that followed.

Keywords: "Football houses"; Accidents; Adolph Rupp; Charlie Bradshaw; Closed practices; Coaches; Coaching; Discipline; Dormitories; Effectiveness; Football; Hospitals; Investigations; Reprimanding; Resignation

Subjects: College athletes; College environment; College football players; College publicity; College sports--Coaching; College sports--Corrupt practices; College sports.; Student housing; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Public relations; Universities and colleges--Safety measures.

01:47:49 - Emphasis on athletics / Governor Happy Chandler's involvement with UK athletics

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Partial Transcript: Um, I think there's some people, even today that if you mentioned, uh, President John Oswald, uh, they'd say, "Oh, he's the president that didn't like athletics."

Segment Synopsis: Oswald talks about others' perceptions of him as being against athletics at the university. He talks about why people may have felt this way and gives examples of why this is untrue. Oswald discusses Governor A.B. "Happy" Chandler's involvement in the university's choice for the next athletic director. He talks about Chandler's support of Bradshaw for the position and why he disagreed with the choice. He discusses the operations of the university athletic board, and the organizational structure of the athletics department. He talks about his interactions with Chandler over the name of the medical center at UK and over Chandler's complimentary football tickets, which Oswald took away.

Keywords: "Sports Illustrated"; "Total athletics"; Academics; Albert B. Chandler Medical Center; Athletic board; Athletic directors; Awards; Board of trustees; Charlie Bradshaw; Complimentary tickets; Criticism; Emphasis; Equality; Fairness; Football tickets; Interest; Perceptions; Professors; Recruiting; Recruitment; Student athletes

Subjects: Chandler, Happy, 1898-1991; College administrators; College administrators--Rating of; College athletes; College benefactors; College buildings.; College integration; College presidents; College sports--Coaching; College sports.; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Faculty.

02:04:46 - Bernie Shively / Stuart Forth

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Partial Transcript: What about Bernie Shively?

Segment Synopsis: Oswald discusses his relationship with athletic director Bernie Shively. He talks about Stuart Forth, acting vice president of student affairs, who was in charge of the athletic director. He talks about Forth's lack of knowledge about sports. He talks about the relationship between Shively and Adolph Rupp.

Keywords: Adolph Rupp; Athletic directors; Bernie Shively; Regulations; Relationships; Rules; Scandals; Stuart Forth

Subjects: College administrators; College integration; College sports--Coaching; College sports.; Universities and colleges--Administration.

02:09:47 - Relocating the football stadium

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Partial Transcript: One area I want to be sure to get into, uh--two areas, maybe these--you've got them for tomorrow morning...

Segment Synopsis: Oswald talks about one of the controversial situations that occurred during his presidency: moving the football stadium. He talks about why he wanted to relocate the stadium, the possible locations for the new stadium, and which location he preferred. He talks about why the current location for the stadium was chosen, and talks about the concerns people had about moving the stadium.

Keywords: Academic freedom; Academics; Attitudes; Campus development; Coldstream; Commonwealth Stadium; Concerns; Controversy; Debates; Discussion; Downtown Lexington; Football stadiums; Growth; Merchants; Neighborhoods; Parking; Planning; Ralph Angelucci; Reactions; Relocation; Stoll Stadium

Subjects: Campus planning.; Campus size; College administrators; College buildings.; College campuses.; College facilities--Planning.; College sports.; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Safety measures.; University towns

02:19:51 - Comparing the University of Kentucky and Penn State athletic programs

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Partial Transcript: Since your time at UK, uh--course you went to a university where national championships have come at the--in football at Penn State, uh, athletics are such big business now.

Segment Synopsis: Oswald discusses the similarities and differences between the Penn State and University of Kentucky athletic programs. He talks about the emphasis on different sports, the budgets for each, and the relationships between coaches, athletic directors, and the university.

Keywords: Athletic board; Athletic programs; Athletics; Authority; Basketball; Board of trustees; Bowl games; Budgets; Business; Football; Joe Paterno; Policies; Relationships; Women's athletics

Subjects: College administrators; College presidents; College sports--Coaching; College sports--Economic aspects--United States.; College sports.; Pennsylvania State University. Athletic Department; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Departments; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; University of Kentucky

02:31:16 - Comparing Adolph Rupp and Joe Paterno

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Partial Transcript: People--it’s inevitable that people a--would ask you, you know, being president at UK when Rupp was there, and of course, that’s one of the things you left for Singletary to do.

Segment Synopsis: Oswald compares University of Kentucky basketball coach Adolph Rupp with Penn State football coach Joe Paterno. He discusses their coaching styles, career records, and interest in the academic side of the university. He discusses the mandatory retirement policy at UK in relation to Rupp.

Keywords: Academics; Adolph Rupp; Coaches; Coaching styles; Discipline, Respect; Dr. Otis A. Singletary; Joe Hall; Joe Paterno; Leadership styles; Mandatory retirement; Quality; Quitting; Records; Teachers; Tenure

Subjects: College administrators; College presidents; College sports--Coaching; College sports.; Education, Higher; Pennsylvania State University. Athletic Department; Universities and colleges--Administration.; Universities and colleges--Employees; Universities and colleges--Ratings and rankings.; University of Kentucky

02:38:10 - 1966 NCAA Championship game

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Partial Transcript: Some have said that Rupp, toward the end, wasn’t adapting to the new young person, the new s--the new, uh, uh, college-age student that you saw so vividly change over the years.

Segment Synopsis: Oswald talks about Rupp's inability to adapt to the changing social climate, including the desegregation of sports. He discusses the 1966 game between UK and Texas Western University, which was the first time a team with an all-black starting line-up won an NCAA basketball national championship. Oswald gives his opinion on the exploitation of the players. The interview is concluded.

Keywords: "Rupp's Runts"; Adapting; Adolph Rupp; Basketball players; Changes; Desegregation; Exploitation; Pat Riley; Recruiting; Recruitment; Texas Western University; Tom Payne

Subjects: African American college students--Social conditions; African American college students.; African Americans--Education--Kentucky--Lexington; College athletes; College integration; College sports--Coaching; College sports--Scouting; College sports.; College students, Black; College students--Social conditions; Discrimination in higher education; Kentucky Wildcats (Basketball team); Minorities in higher education; University of Kentucky; University of Texas at El Paso