Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History

Interview with Beth L. Goldstein, March 11, 1992

Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History, University of Kentucky Libraries
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00:00:04 - Goldstein's background

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Partial Transcript: The following is an interview with Professor Beth Goldstein on Wednesday March 11, 1992.

Segment Synopsis: Goldstein discusses her past education, including her focus on Asian Studies. She discusses her hometown, as well as her family and values.

Keywords: Asian Studies; Bachelor's degrees; Background information; Chinese University of Hong Kong; College studies; Educational Policy Studies and Evaluation; Family; Graduate programs; Living abroad; PhDs; Refugee camps; Undergraduate programs; Undergraduates

Subjects: College graduates; College students--Conduct of life.; Education; Families.; Universities and colleges.; Women in higher education.; Women--Education (Higher); Yale University

00:03:26 - Educational experiences & opportunities

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Partial Transcript: Did you ever change majors or were you originally--have you--from the very beginning were you--

Segment Synopsis: Goldstein had multiple interesting opportunities in both her undergraduate and graduate years. She had started as an Anthropology major and later pursued educational studies. She gained new experiences in Hong Kong and in Thailand with English education.

Keywords: Anthropology; Awards; Changing field of study; Concentrations; Education programs; Educational Studies; Expectations; Fellowships; Graduate Studies; Graduating with honors; PhDs; Research grants; Southeast Asian Studies; Teaching fellowships

Subjects: College graduates; College students--Conduct of life.; Education; Universities and colleges.; Women in higher education.; Women--Education (Higher)

00:05:21 - Importance of education

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Partial Transcript: Um, how important, would you say, was education in your family?

Segment Synopsis: Goldstein's parents prioritized education from an early age. From participating in extracurricular activities and attending fine schools, Goldstein says she has lived a privileged life in regard to her academic career. Her parents preached to her and her siblings to be involved and committed to their studies and interests. She also elaborates on her own definition of education and how it overlaps with her parents' values.

Keywords: Commitment; Critical thinking; Extracurricular activities; Frugal; Higher education; Honors; Involvement; Parental values; Personal development; Priorities; Religious schooling; Values

Subjects: Education; Families.

00:11:43 - Contacts in her line of work

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Partial Transcript: When did you first have any kind of significant contact with others that were already working in this line of work?

Segment Synopsis: Goldstein made contacts through her commitment and involvement to her studies; in class and out of class she took advantage of opportunities to gain more knowledge and experience. From hands-on international educational experiences to major-dedicated clubs within her college, her studies became the stepping stone for her educational career.

Keywords: Contacts; Curriculum committees; Educational outreach; Educational policy formation groups; Exposure; External opportunities; Extracurricular activities; Hands-on experience; Higher education; International organizations; Involvement; Labor education; Volunteer education

Subjects: Anthropology; College graduates; College students--Conduct of life.; Education; International education.; Universities and colleges.; Volunteers; Women in higher education.; Women--Education (Higher)

00:16:47 - The harsh reality of outside-field exploration

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Partial Transcript: And my advisor recommended to me that if I wanted to do--to try an academic career that I was probably better off to doing it sooner than later.

Segment Synopsis: Goldstein describes pursuing her doctorate and the repercussions she faced after resigning from an administrative position in an Indonesian college. She explains how for many students who are not on a certain one-field career path, it becomes a challenge to be accepted by peers and seen by professors as a serious student.

Keywords: Career paths; Careers; Challenges; Decisions; Department heads; Disadvantages; Exploratory opportunities; Life choices; Personal interests; Professors; Pursuing interests

Subjects: College graduates; College majors; College students--Attitudes.; College students--Conduct of life.; College students--Social conditions; College teachers.; Education; Educators; International education.; Teaching; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; Universities and colleges.; Women in higher education.; Women--Education (Higher)

00:18:09 - Goldstein's career history

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Partial Transcript: And, um, and since I was curious about it--and in some ways I still haven't made up my mind...

Segment Synopsis: A variety of jobs are mentioned, from Goldstein's passion for community-based educational positions to being a dental assistant. She says she has had a very diverse and interesting career path. All of her past occupations have led her to the point of being dedicated to educational studies and teaching ESL at several institutions.

Keywords: Academic environment; Administrators; Community-based education; Diverse work; Education field; English as a second language (ESL); Higher education; Jobs; Precarious positions; Professors; Teachers

Subjects: College teachers.; Education; Educators; International education.; Occupations.; Professions.; Teaching; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; Universities and colleges.; Volunteers; Women in higher education.; Women--Education (Higher)

00:23:11 - Typical day as a professor at the University of Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: Okay, um, now we're going to get into a little bit more of what you do here.

Segment Synopsis: Goldstein gives a detailed description of her non-routine daily life working at UK. From running around campus for student appointments to tending to family and focusing on her research, she mentions how being well-organized is vital to juggling all of the work. Although she enjoys being independent and feels capable of completing all of her work, at times she feels too busy.

Keywords: Busy-work activities; Commitment; Communication skills; Daily routines; Day-to-day routines; Everyday life; Independent; Motivation; Organization; Personable skills; Research papers; Responsibility for work completion; Schedules; Well-organized

Subjects: College environment; College teachers--Social conditions; College teachers--Workload; College teachers.; College teaching.; Education; Education, Higher--Kentucky; Educators; Professions.; Teachers--Kentucky; Teaching; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; University of Kentucky

00:29:32 - Likes and dislikes at the University of Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: Okay, um, what part of your work here at the University do you like the most?

Segment Synopsis: Goldstein says she likes more than she dislikes about UK. She describes her job as "a best of both worlds" situation because she has the opportunity to further her own research, along with teaching and working with students. Her custom non-lecture classes for students allow her to build a connection with her students.

Keywords: Administration; Committees; Community work; Non-lectured teaching; Rejection; Research; Teaching; Teaching systems; Validating yourself; Working with students

Subjects: College environment; College teachers--Social conditions; College teachers--Workload; College teachers.; College teaching.; Education; Education, Higher--Kentucky; Educators; Professions.; Teachers--Kentucky; Teaching; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; Universities and colleges--Research; University of Kentucky

00:39:00 - Student, faculty, and personal opinions on her work

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Partial Transcript: Okay, so how do you think your students would describe your work?

Segment Synopsis: Goldstein gives her perspective about her typical work day and how it differs from other faculty. She is asked about students' perspectives on having a teacher who does a lot of behind the scenes work and says they do not understand her busy day. Goldstein said she chooses to focus on putting time towards helping her students in her community outside of the classroom.

Keywords: Academic freedom; College students--Attitudes.; Doctoral teaching; Hours worked; Organizations; Perspectives; Priorities; Undergraduate teaching; Volunteer basis; Work environment

Subjects: College environment; College teachers--Social conditions; College teachers--Workload; College teachers.; College teaching.; Education; Education, Higher--Kentucky; Educators; Professions.; Teachers--Kentucky; Teaching; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; University of Kentucky; University of Kentucky. College of Education; Volunteers

00:42:16 - Alternative occupations

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Partial Transcript: If you couldn't do what you're doing right now, what would you do?

Segment Synopsis: Goldstein says she enjoys her current life, her studies, etc. She claims she has thought about taking a half-time job, but she admits a full and hectic schedule keeps her busy and satisfied. Although she would hope to spend more time with her younger children, her life is dedicated to all the things she enjoys and keeps her busy from 9AM-5PM.

Keywords: Choices; Different schedules; Freedom; Full day; Full-time jobs; Guilt; Half-time positions; Maternity leave; Part-time positions; Personal time off; Priorities; Schedules; Time management

Subjects: College environment; College teachers--Social conditions; College teachers--Workload; College teachers.; College teaching.; Education; Education, Higher--Kentucky; Educators; Professions.; Teachers--Kentucky; Teaching; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; University of Kentucky

00:45:00 - Career overview

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Partial Transcript: Okay, would you say, um--we talked earlier about what things you liked most and what you liked least...

Segment Synopsis: Goldstein says she feels the University of Kentucky is indifferent about pursuing international work for research or personal learning. She mentions that the university has "never been as serious" about it. She wants to feel that her work will be supported. She mentions challenging and difficult aspects of her workplace, and she shares her viewpoint that hard tasks are not necessarily bad things.

Keywords: Abroad; Choosing careers; Completed tasks; Enjoyable; Expectations; Exploratory jobs; Independent skills; Opportunities; Opportunity; Personal interests; Priorities; Responsibilities; Responsibility; Travel; Work environment

Subjects: College environment; College teachers--Social conditions; College teachers--Workload; College teachers.; College teaching.; Education; Education, Higher--Kentucky; Educators; Professions.; Teachers--Kentucky; Teaching; Universities and colleges--Faculty.; University of Kentucky