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00:00:10 - John Sherman Cooper

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Partial Transcript: John Ed, before I get into the questions that get us back on the chronology, I thought I would mention that, uh, on the way down here this morning, I-I was listening to Al Smith's show.

Segment Synopsis: Pearce talks about Mitch McConnell and John Sherman Cooper.

Keywords: Liberals; Mitch McConnell; Politics; Republicans

Subjects: Cooper, John Sherman, 1901-1991; Pearce, John Ed.

00:05:46 - Significance of the interview

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Partial Transcript: S--you know before we get too deep into this, I wanted to go over again a little bit, as you know, I don't know why we're doing this. And I can't believe that I have been, or am, or will be of sufficient importance to merit my recollections being kept in an archives.

Segment Synopsis: Pearce talks about his desire to accurately present himself. The interviewer explains why the interviews are important.

Keywords: Biographies; Interviews; Oral histories; Personal histories

Subjects: Oral histories.; Pearce, John Ed.

00:11:00 - Working at the Courier-Journal

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Partial Transcript: Okay. The last time we, uh, we got you to the Courier-Journal. And, um. And think--

Segment Synopsis: Pearce talks about getting his job at the Louisville Courier-Journal. Talks about the differences between working at the Courier-Journal and The Somerset Journal.

Keywords: Job; Journalists; Kentucky; Newspapers; Somerset (Ky.); The Somerset Journal

Subjects: Courier-journal (Louisville, Ky.); Newspaper editors; Pearce, John Ed.

00:17:47 - Politics and editorial writing

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Partial Transcript: What about your politics? You know when we last--we had talked about your politics when you were in college. Sort of this, uh, well the way I interpreted, you know, just sort of experimenting with ideas, and--

Segment Synopsis: Pearce talks about his political beliefs during different times in his life. Talks about writing editorials. Talks about the men he worked for and how he felt comfortable following them. Talks about how the Courier-Journal was received in different parts of the state.

Keywords: Conservatives; Democrats; Editorials; Journalists; Kentucky; Liberals; Opinions; Politics; Republicans; Writers

Subjects: Courier-journal (Louisville, Ky.); Newspaper editors; Pearce, John Ed.

00:24:57 - Problems in Kentucky / changes in coal mining

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Partial Transcript: I assume that, uh, Bingham and, uh, those of you aff-affiliated with the Courier-Journal, again in this late 40's period were-- did you become caught up in this, uh, post-war, uh, zeal to, to fix things in the state?

Segment Synopsis: Pearce talks about becoming aware of the deficiencies of the state. Talks about problems with roads and education and out-migration. Talks about not being popular in eastern Kentucky. Talks about John L. Lewis.

Keywords: Coal miners; Continuous miners; Education; Hotels; John L. Lewis; Mining; Out-migrations; Roads; Strikes

Subjects: Courier-journal (Louisville, Ky.); Kentucky; Pearce, John Ed.

00:33:58 - Tennessee Valley Authority

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Partial Transcript: Uh, during this process, John Ed, I'm going to be learning about how newspapers work and how the editorial staff works.

Segment Synopsis: Pearce talks about meeting different people while working for the Courier-Journal. Talks about his interaction with the Tennessee Valley Authority. Talks about TVA controlling flooding, demonstrations to farmers about taking care of land, and reforestation programs. Pearce talks about reading old editorials in the newspaper library. Talks about the TVA damming rivers and its affiliation with strip mining.

Keywords: Controversy; Dams; Editorials; Electricity; Erosion; Farms; Floods; Hydroelectric power; John L. Lewis; Journalists; Newspapers; Paul Evans; Reforestation; Strip mining; TVA; Writers

Subjects: Courier-journal (Louisville, Ky.); Newspaper editors; Pearce, John Ed.; Tennessee Valley Authority.

GPS: Knoxville, Tennessee
Map Coordinates: 35.972778, -83.942222
00:53:37 - Harry Lee Waterfield and Earle C. Clements

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Partial Transcript: Now by the late 40's, um, and we-we'll touch upon this in another way later, but since we're talking about public power and the debate over public power, uh, in the, uh, if I'm recalling this right, in the '47 election you had Clements and Waterfield.

Segment Synopsis: Pearce talks about the Courier-Journal's support for Harry Lee Waterfield. Talks about writing speeches for Harry Lee Waterfield. Describes Harry Lee Waterfield and Earle C. Clements. Talks about Dick Moloney and his friendship with Tyler Munford.

Keywords: Courier-Journal; Dick Moloney; Earle C. Clements; Governors; Harry Lee Waterfield; Kentucky; Personalities; Speeches; Tyler Munford

Subjects: Clements, Earle C. (Earle Chester), 1896-1985; Governors--Kentucky; Pearce, John Ed.

01:01:17 - Relationship with Earle C. Clements

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Partial Transcript: I suppose that, uh, while you were at Somerset, you had met a lot of these, uh, uh, newspaper editors from around the state and while you were at the Courier in these early years traveling around, you would meet more and more of these, uh, editors?

Segment Synopsis: Pearce talks about meeting various newspaper editors. Talks about making Governor Clements angry and Governor Clements' later apology. Describes Governor Clements' personality, manners, abilities, career, and interests.

Keywords: Dick Moloney; Governors; Kentucky politics; Newspaper editors; Personalities; Politicians; Power

Subjects: Clements, Earle C. (Earle Chester), 1896-1985; Pearce, John Ed.

GPS: Morganfield, Kentucky
Map Coordinates: 37.684444, -87.911944
01:20:03 - Lennie McLaughlin

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Partial Transcript: It's-it was too bad that Earle and Barry Bingham Senior didn't get along better personally.

Segment Synopsis: Pearce talks about how Governor Clements and Barry Bingham did not get along. Talks about Governor Clements' relationship with Lennie McLaughlin. Talks about Lennie McLaughlin's political power in Louisville.

Keywords: Barry Bingham; Earle C. Clements; Johnny Crimmins; Lennie McLaughlin; Louisville (Ky.); Personalities

Subjects: Kentucky--Politics and government; Louisville (Ky.)--History; Pearce, John Ed.

GPS: Louisville, Kentucky
Map Coordinates: 38.25, -85.766667
01:25:54 - Frankfort, Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: I liked covering the legislature. I liked to write editorials in Frankfort. I thought it was a very exciting, colorful thing to do.

Segment Synopsis: Pearce relates stories from his time in Frankfort, Kentucky.

Keywords: Beauticians; Capital Hotel; Prostitution

Subjects: Frankfort (Ky.); Kentucky--Politics and government; Pearce, John Ed.

GPS: Frankfort, Kentucky
Map Coordinates: 38.2, -84.866667
01:35:39 - More about the incident with Governor Clements / Nick Johnson

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Partial Transcript: Going back to the incident with you and the Governor in the hallway. Uh, after he walked away, what, what went through your mind? What did you think about all that?

Segment Synopsis: Pearce talks more about why Governor Clements was angry with him. The interviewer talks about requesting an interview with Barry Bingham. Pearce talks about Senator Nick Johnson.

Keywords: Harlan (Ky.); Nick Johnson; Scars

Subjects: Bingham, Barry, 1906-1988; Clements, Earle C. (Earle Chester), 1896-1985; Kentucky--Politics and government; Pearce, John Ed.

01:45:03 - Lobbyists / Garvice Kincaid

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Partial Transcript: Were most of, uh--back in this late 40's, early 50's period were the, uh, legislature even then made up of predominately lawyers? Or were there less lawyers at that time?

Segment Synopsis: Pearce talks about the most active lobbyists in Frankfort. Talks about Garvice Kincaid throwing parties for the legislature.

Keywords: Frankfort (Ky.); Garvice Kincaid; Kentucky; Lobbyists; Tyler Munford

Subjects: Kentucky--Politics and government; Pearce, John Ed.

01:49:52 - More on Earle C. Clements

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Partial Transcript: We were talking about--earlier, about Earle Clements, and your confrontation with him. Herman Lee Donovan had a confrontation with, with Earle Clements.

Segment Synopsis: Pearce talks about Clements engaging in various confrontations. Interviewer talks about how hard Clements worked. Pearce talks about having dinner with Clements. Talks about Clements' driving.

Keywords: Anger; Confrontations; Dinner parties; Driving; Emerson "Doc" Beauchamp; Fights; Herman Lee Donovan; Prayers; Speeding; Tempers

Subjects: Clements, Earle C. (Earle Chester), 1896-1985; Kentucky--Politics and government; Pearce, John Ed.

01:57:05 - Emerson "Doc" Beauchamp / eastern Kentucky politics

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Partial Transcript: Doc Beauchamp stories are--that's another person I never met.

Segment Synopsis: Pearce talks about why Emerson "Doc" Beauchamp never ran for governor. Talks about Beauchamp's political abilities and Beauchamp's relationship with Governor Clements. Talks about losing political power and politics in eastern Kentucky.

Keywords: Buying votes; Earle C. Clements; Electoral fraud; Emerson 'Doc" Beauchamp; Happy Chandler; Jackie Howell; Logan County (Ky.); Shelbyville (Ky.); Speeches

Subjects: Kentucky--Politics and government; Lieutenant governors--Powers and duties; Pearce, John Ed.

02:04:16 - Louisville, Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: When, uh, when you think back about Lennie McLaughlin, did she have a job other than running the--

Segment Synopsis: Pearce talks about how sources of power have changed in politics. Talks about Louisville, Kentucky when he first moved there. Describes Louisville at Christmastime, downtown, and local businesses. Talks about racial division and influential people in the city. [There is a pause in the tape during segment.]

Keywords: Bankers; Barry Bingham; Brown Hotel; Communities; Eli Brown; George Norton; Jefferson County (Ky.); Lennie McLaughlin; Local businesses; Soldiers; Tom Graham; Town growth

Subjects: Louisville (Ky.); Pearce, John Ed.

GPS: Louisville, Kentucky
Map Coordinates: 38.25, -85.766667
02:18:10 - Thruston B. Morton and Wilson W. Wyatt

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Partial Transcript: Did you get to know, uh, did you get to know Thruston Morton while he was in Congress, representing this district?

Segment Synopsis: Pearce talks about Wilson Wyatt's term as Louisville's mayor. Talks about his impressions of Wilson Wyatt and Thruston Morton. Talks about Kentucky's influence in national politics.

Keywords: Harry S. Truman; Thruston Morton; Wilson Wyatt

Subjects: Courier-journal (Louisville, Ky.); Kentucky--Politics and government; Morton, Thruston B. (Thruston Ballard), 1907-1982.; Pearce, John Ed.; Wyatt, Wilson W. (Wilson Watkins), 1905-1996

02:27:28 - Pearce's journalism education

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Partial Transcript: And then of course, the C-Courier's connected to all these people.

Segment Synopsis: Pearce discusses how the Courier-Journal was a respected newspaper. Talks about taking a course at Columbia University. Talks about his journalism education at the University of Kentucky. Talks about learning about journalism through his employment at newspapers.

Keywords: Columbia University; Education; Journalism; Journalists; Lecturers; Lexington Herald-Leader; University of Kentucky

Subjects: Courier-journal (Louisville, Ky.); Journalism, Educational; Pearce, John Ed.

02:32:24 - Staff of the Courier-Journal

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Partial Transcript: Your day at the Courier was rather interesting. We'd come in around 8 or 8:30 to 9 and get the papers and start reading the papers.

Segment Synopsis: Pearce describes a typical day at the Courier-Journal. Describes his office. Talks about Courier-Journal staff members Molly Clowes, Weldon James, Tarleton Collier, and Russell Briney. Talks about cartoonists Grover Page, Bob York, and Hugh Haynie.

Keywords: Barry Bingham; Cartoonists; Editors; Grover Page; Hugh Haynie; Journalists; Molly Clowes; Newspaper staff; Newspapers; Robert York; Russell Briney; Tarleton Collier; Weldon James; Writers

Subjects: Courier-journal (Louisville, Ky.); Pearce, John Ed.

02:49:53 - Courier-Journal Bureaus

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Partial Transcript: We each had our own--his own--each had his own specialty, sort of. His own bag. We wrote on our own subjects. I handled all the politics for the thing.

Segment Synopsis: Pearce talks about traveling throughout Kentucky to the different bureaus of the Courier-Journal. Describes the Hatcher Hotel in Pikeville, Kentucky. Talks about Gerald Griffin. Talks about other men who staffed the newspaper bureaus. [Tape ends.]

Keywords: Gerald Griffin; Hatcher Hotel; Newspaper bureaus; Pikeville (Ky.)

Subjects: Courier-journal (Louisville, Ky.); Pearce, John Ed.