Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History

Interview with Kathy Hall, November 20, 2006

Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History, University of Kentucky Libraries
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00:00:01 - Childhood and love of the outdoors

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Partial Transcript: This is Dale Johnson with Eastern Kentucky PRIDE talking to Kathy Hall in um, London, Kentucky on November 20th, 2006.

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses living in Ohio, Michigan, and Tennessee growing up and how her childhood contributed to her love of the outdoors.

Keywords: Michigan; Ohio; Outdoors; Pontiac Lake (Mich.); Tennessee

Subjects: Childhood; Fishing; Hunting; Parents; Recreation

00:06:21 - Education and early career

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Partial Transcript: So, eventually you went to college?

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses her college education and her career before PRIDE.

Keywords: Communications; Cumberland College (Ky.); Eastern Kentucky University (Ky.); News broadcasting

Subjects: Broadcast journalism.; Careers; Education; Employment--Kentucky; Occupations; Radio

00:09:17 - Beginnings with PRIDE

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Partial Transcript: Uh, so Bob Mitchell, your connection with Bob Mitchell, did that put you in PRIDE then right at the very start?

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses being the first person hired by PRIDE, and the executive directors she worked under in the beginning. Hall also describes her office in the Center for Rural Development.

Keywords: Bob Mitchell; Center for Rural Development (Ky.); Darrell Ishmael; Ishmael, Darrell; Jeff Speaks; Jobs; Mitchell, Bob; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE); Speaks, Jeff

Subjects: Careers; Employment--Kentucky; Occupations

00:15:00 - Duties at PRIDE

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Partial Transcript: But, uh--so, so you, you just kind of did whatever came up?

Segment Synopsis: Hall describes what her job as a field representative with PRIDE involved. Hall describes traveling to different counties and doing radio interviews for PRIDE. Hall also describes her later position doing education for PRIDE.

Keywords: Field representatives; Interviews; Jobs; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE); Radio; Travel; Work

Subjects: Careers; Education; Employment--Kentucky; Environmental education.; Occupations

00:20:22 - First counties involved with PRIDE

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Partial Transcript: What were some of the first judges and counties to sign on to, to, to the program? I mean that got--that took an interest?

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses the first counties to get on board with PRIDE.

Keywords: Harlan County (Ky.); Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE)

Subjects: Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Meetings

00:22:22 - SAR education programs

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Partial Transcript: But, uh, when you got into education--I keep hearing little snippets about--something about Appalachian Resources people or something that were going in to the schools and doing environmental education and, and PRIDE...

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses Southern Appalachia Resources (SAR), who worked to do environmental education in schools.

Keywords: Saving Appalachia's Resources (SAR); Southern Appalachia Resources (SAR)

Subjects: Education; Environmental education.; Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Litter (Trash); Recycling (Waste, etc.); Refuse and refuse disposal.

00:29:29 - Coworkers at PRIDE

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Partial Transcript: Now how many years were you with PRIDE then?

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses the growth of PRIDE and the other staff members she worked with. Hall also explains that people were chosen from different parts of the PRIDE area to be on the board.

Keywords: Board members; Carol Cox; Cindy Lackey; Cox, Carol; Engle, Karen; Jeff Speaks; Karen Engle; Kentucky water watch; Lackey, Cindy; Mark York; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE); Speaks, Jeff; York, Mark

Subjects: Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Water Watch (Program : Ky.)

00:38:27 - PRIDE's education programs

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Partial Transcript: I wasn't aware that education was always part of PRIDE from the very beginning.

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses PRIDE's education programs and how they had to change attitudes about pollution. Hall also discusses the prevalence of dumping even outside of Kentucky and how children can help influence adults.

Keywords: Dumping; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE)

Subjects: Children; Education; Environmental education.; Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Litter (Trash); Pollution.; Refuse and refuse disposal.

00:43:33 - How PRIDE's education programs started

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Partial Transcript: I left PRIDE--(laughs)--and came back to doing radio.

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses why she left PRIDE after six years. Hall also discusses how PRIDE education programs picked up when she started running into environmental educators.

Keywords: Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE); Traveling

Subjects: Children; Education; Environmental education.; Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Radio; Teachers; Travel

00:47:10 - State programs and starting grants

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Partial Transcript: And then we started--that's how we started branching out and working with Kentucky Water Watch and all the programs that the state has.

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses working with state programs and the beginning of PRIDE's grant program. Hall and Johnson also discuss PRIDE clubs.

Keywords: Funding; Grants; Kentucky Water Watch; PRIDE clubs; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE); State programs

Subjects: Environmental education.; Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Schools; Water Watch (Program : Ky.)

00:52:11 - Changes in PRIDE

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Partial Transcript: Do you have any other impressions about your time at PRIDE, you, you might wanna elaborate on or any cool stories or?

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses the changes she saw from the beginning of PRIDE. Hall discusses Congressman Rogers and doing flyovers at the beginning of PRIDE.

Keywords: Flyovers; Hal Rogers; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE); Rogers, Hal

Subjects: Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Helicopters; Rogers, Harold Dallas, 1937-

00:54:48 - Grant program limitations

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Partial Transcript: Yeah, I, um--you know I keep asking people for negatives about PRIDE 'cause I, I wanna be as even-handed as I can be and--but it, it's, it's pretty hard to argue with free money to clean up the place.

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses how the limitations of the grant program upset some people.

Keywords: Breathitt County (Ky.); Funding; Grants; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE)

Subjects: Anger; Environmental protection; Environmentalism

00:57:48 - Talking with youth and people who were helped by PRIDE

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Partial Transcript: And that was kind of interesting, that, that was interesting to watch the Congressman, who's used to going out and speaking to people, like you say big people and talking with big people to come out and try to do a program with children...

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses Congressman Rogers' initial difficulties working with youth. Hall also discusses traveling around the state to talk to people who were helped by PRIDE.

Keywords: Children; Hal Rogers; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE); Rogers, Hal; Septic systems; Straight pipes

Subjects: Children; Environmental education.; Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Plumbing.; Poor; Poverty; Rogers, Harold Dallas, 1937-; Sewerage.; Youth

01:00:58 - Funding from NOAA / love for the outdoors

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Partial Transcript: Yeah, I can't wait to interview somebody from the Army Corps of Engineers 'cause I'm--I know that it's kind of unusual for the Army Corps of Engineers to hand out money.

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses PRIDE getting funding from NOAA. Hall also discusses her love for the outdoors.

Keywords: Funding; National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA); Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE)

Subjects: Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Litter (Trash); United States. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration; Waterways

01:04:33 - Controversial decisions and seeing dumps up close

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Partial Transcript: And I think you--there was some controversy, you know, with the PRIDE program early on when they, when they built the, uh, the floodgate.

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses some controversial decisions by PRIDE. Hall also discusses how seeing dumps up close affected her.

Keywords: Cumberland Falls (Ky.); Dumps; Floodgates; PRIDE boat; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE)

Subjects: Boats and boating.; Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Litter (Trash); Pollution.; Refuse and refuse disposal.; Waste disposal sites

01:09:08 - Illegal dump footage and a story about Al Gore

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Partial Transcript: And one time, Tony Turner had called me when he was still alive to, uh, talk about, uh, be--um, to talk, to go out and do a, uh, story.

Segment Synopsis: Hall tells a story about filming a story in a dump site and the video that was captured by hidden cameras. Hall also tells a controversial story about Al Gore.

Keywords: Al Gore; Dumps; Gore, Al; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE)

Subjects: Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Gore, Al, 1948-; Pollution.; Refuse and refuse disposal.; Waste disposal sites

01:13:09 - Car buyback program and resistance

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Partial Transcript: One of the, probably, one of the biggest things that was, uh, a big thing early on that PRIDE did and along with the Environmental Protection, you know, Cabinet, they were, I think, the leaders in this...

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses cars being parked along creek banks and the state's buyback program. Hall also discusses resistance to the program.

Keywords: Buyback programs; Cars; Creeks; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE)

Subjects: Automobiles.; Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Refuse and refuse disposal.

01:19:21 - Stories about PRIDE

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Partial Transcript: That's a good story. Got any other stories about being with Richard?

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses getting dangerously lost in Letcher County. Hall also discusses doing dump cleanups with prisoners and finding diapers in dumps.

Keywords: Diapers; Dump cleanups; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE)

Subjects: Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Letcher County (Ky.); Litter (Trash); Pollution.; Prisoners; Refuse and refuse disposal.; Waste disposal sites

01:23:14 - Challenges of working with children

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Partial Transcript: But, um, I guess the only other thing that I was curious about, did they have the, the spring and fall cleanups from the very beginning?

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses the unique challenges that come from working with children.

Keywords: Challenges; Garbage; Mothers; Parents; Youth

Subjects: Children; Environmental education.; Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Litter (Trash); Pollution.; Refuse and refuse disposal.

01:24:53 - A car stuck in a dump

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Partial Transcript: Did, um, Richard tell you about the guy that, that, the car he was act--they were actually, they were actually had a camera in a dump site that a car--where a car went over and had somebody in it?

Segment Synopsis: Hall discusses her friend Teresa Hill, the Environmental Public Protection Cabinet Secretary. Hall also tells a story about a car getting stuck in a dump site.

Keywords: Bickford, James; Cars; Dumps; Environmental Public Protection Cabinet; Hill, Teresa; Illegal dumps; James Bickford; Secretary James Bickford; Teresa Hill

Subjects: Automobiles; Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Pollution.; Refuse and refuse disposal.; Waste disposal sites

01:29:28 - Travel stories

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Partial Transcript: Yeah, Jennifer and I've had--Jennifer and I, the day we had to drive to Lilley Cornett Woods we, uh, encountered a massive storm going in to that place.

Segment Synopsis: Hall tells some stories about traveling with PRIDE.

Keywords: Bell County (Ky.); Carsickness; Driving; Knott County (Ky.); Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE); Pineville (Ky.); Speeding; Traveling

Subjects: Motion sickness.; Travel

01:35:54 - An unfortunate river discovery

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Partial Transcript: It was always interesting to get these, uh, kids out with this Water Watch thing.

Segment Synopsis: Hall tells a story about an unfortunate discovery in a river.

Keywords: Creeks; Lawrence County (Ky.); Water testing

Subjects: Children; Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Feces; Pollution.; Refuse and refuse disposal.; Rivers; Water quality.