Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History

Interview with Karen Engle, December 5, 2006

Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History, University of Kentucky Libraries
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00:00:00 - Childhood homes

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Partial Transcript: Today is December 5th, 2006. My name is Cindy Lackey, I'm communications manager for Eastern Kentucky PRIDE.

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses her childhood growing up in Ohio and moving to Eastern Kentucky. Engle discusses her childhood homes in both places and the amenities they had.

Keywords: Bowling Green (Oh.); Brothers and sisters.; Elkhorn City (Ky.); Garbage; Operation UNITE; Pike County (Ky.); Running water; Siblings; Trash pickup; Unlawful Narcotics Investigations, Treatment and Education (UNITE); Utilities

Subjects: Childhood; Families; Plumbing.; Refuse and refuse disposal.; Sewerage.; Youth

00:07:24 - Father's occupations

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Partial Transcript: Well, and I should ask, how did your family make a living?

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses her father's careers in construction and mall management and his untimely death.

Keywords: Careers; Construction; Fathers; Jobs; Mall management; Occupations; Parents

Subjects: Disabilities; Employment--Kentucky

00:10:00 - Occupations after high school

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Partial Transcript: Um, well once you all were in Kentucky, and, I guess you went--obviously you went ahead and finished high school.

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses her various occupations after graduating high school and her mentor during those years.

Keywords: Attorneys; Careers; Certified Public Accountants (CPAs); Jobs; Mentors; Occupations

Subjects: Dental offices; Employment--Kentucky; Insurance claims; Lawyers

00:15:27 - Working in Congressman Rogers' office

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Partial Transcript: Well, once you started at the congressional office were you a, uh, what they call a field rep early on, is that--

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses her job in Congressman Hal Rogers' office and how her position evolved.

Keywords: Careers; Case workers; Field rep; Hal Rogers; Jobs; Occupations; Rogers, Hal

Subjects: Employment--Kentucky; Rogers, Harold Dallas, 1937-; Rogers, Harold, 1937-

00:18:59 - Operation UNITE

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Partial Transcript: Of course, when y--after the congressional office you came to PRIDE.

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses her move from PRIDE to Operation UNITE. Engle discusses what the Operation UNITE program does and tells a story about a woman who benefited from the program.

Keywords: Drug education; Operation UNITE; Unlawful Narcotics Investigations, Treatment and Education (UNITE)

Subjects: Drug addiction; Drug courts; Education

00:22:49 - Beginnings of PRIDE

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Partial Transcript: Well, we've got that on record now. We've got a little bit about UNITE.

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses how she first heard about the PRIDE initiative. Engle also discusses the meetings she held around the region about tourism.

Keywords: Hal Rogers; Jeff Speaks; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE)

Subjects: Meetings; Rogers, Harold Dallas, 1937-; Rogers, Harold, 1937-; Tourism

00:24:54 - PRIDE's first meeting

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Partial Transcript: And I was gonna ask you 'cause I wasn't sure, did you attend that first meeting, it sounds like?

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses the first big meeting held by PRIDE to try to convince people to participate.

Keywords: Carroll Smith; Hal Rogers; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE); Rogers, Hal; Smith, Carroll

Subjects: Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Meetings; Rogers, Harold Dallas, 1937-; Rogers, Harold, 1937-

00:28:19 - Early days of PRIDE and challenges with funding

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Partial Transcript: Well, um, I guess you were still involved in a while at the c--in the congressional office. I guess, bring us past that meeting, how did your involvement grow?

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses her involvement in the early days of PRIDE. Engle also discusses where the initial funding for PRIDE came from and the challenges that came with that.

Keywords: Department of Commerce; Funding; National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA); Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE)

Subjects: Bureaucracy; Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Rural development; United States. Army. Corps of Engineers.; United States. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

00:32:39 - Congressman Rogers' hard work for PRIDE

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Partial Transcript: Okay, well we'll step back then, to--you were still at the congressional office just helping because that's what the congressional office did until the PRIDE organization started.

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses Congressman Rogers' hard work to get the PRIDE organization started. Engle also discusses Congressman Rogers' motivational skills.

Keywords: Hal Rogers; Motivation; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE); Rogers, Hal

Subjects: Children; Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Rogers, Harold Dallas, 1937-; Rogers, Harold, 1937-; Volunteers

00:40:16 - First role at PRIDE

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Partial Transcript: Well, um, I guess let's go ahead and fast forward to when--when did you come on board at PRIDE and, and what was your role?

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses her first role at PRIDE as a compliance officer.

Keywords: Accountability; Compliance officer; Corbin (Ky.); Federal funds; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE)

Subjects: Employment--Kentucky; Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Ethics and compliance officers

00:43:30 - Working as executive director of PRIDE

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Partial Transcript: So that's what you started doing.

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses her jobs as deputy director and later executive director of PRIDE. Engle also discusses the people who held the position of executive director before her and the quick growth of the organization.

Keywords: Darrell Ishmael; Deputy director; Executive director; Ishmael, Darrell; Jeff Speaks; Jobs; Organizational growth; Speaks, Jeff

Subjects: Careers; Employment--Kentucky; Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Growth; Occupations

00:46:26 - Identifying dumps and straight pipes

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Partial Transcript: And that's exactly what I wanted to get from you--

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses the difficulties that came along with the grant program and trying to identify dumps and straight pipes. Engle also discusses presenting a map with locations of straight pipes and dumps at a meeting.

Keywords: Dumps; Grants; Illegal dumps; Straight pipes

Subjects: Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Grants and funding; Meetings; Plumbing.; Pollution.; Refuse and refuse disposal.; Sewerage.; Waste disposal sites

00:53:59 - Super grants and the revolving loan program

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Partial Transcript: Well, we were talking about the community grant program--

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses the reasons behind the change in PRIDE's grant program. Engle also discusses the revolving loan fund.

Keywords: Compliance policy; Grants; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE); Revolving loan fund; Revolving loan program; Super grants

Subjects: Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Grants and funding; Loans

01:00:07 - Sewer projects

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Partial Transcript: Well, that covers solid waste and water. Well, almost, I gu--

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses coordinating sewer projects through the EPA and later through PRIDE. Engle also discusses working with rural development on sewer projects.

Keywords: Environmental Protection Agency (EPA); Grants; National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA); Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE); Sewers

Subjects: Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Grants and funding; Plumbing.; Pollution.; Poverty; Refuse and refuse disposal.; Rural development; Sewerage.; United States. Environmental Protection Agency.; United States. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration; Waste disposal sites

01:05:25 - PRIDE's education programs

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Partial Transcript: Well, let's see, that, that's mainly the solid waste and the wastewater then.

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses PRIDE's education programs and some of the important players in them.

Keywords: Grants; Jane Eller; Kathy Hall; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE)

Subjects: Education; Environmental education.; Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Grants and funding

01:08:04 - The importance of volunteers

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Partial Transcript: Um, are there any more things you'd like to talk about why things evolved the way they did or, can you remem--we talked about most of the programs, I think.

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses the importance of volunteers to PRIDE. Engle also discusses the importance of making volunteers feel appreciated and motivating volunteers, including her idea for the Envi Awards.

Keywords: Christine Todd Whitman; Envi Awards; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE); Rewards; Tony Lewis; Volunteering; White appliances buyback; White goods buyback

Subjects: Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Household appliances; Voluntarism; Volunteers; Whitman, Christine Todd

01:16:02 - The legacy of Tony Turner

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Partial Transcript: And you mentioned a name earlier, and I don't think we can talk about the volunteers, recognizing them without talking a little bit more about him, um, and that's Tony Turner.

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses Tony Turner, a very active volunteer for PRIDE and a good friend of Engle's who passed away in a tragic accident.

Keywords: Chairman; Executive director; Tony Turner; Volunteering

Subjects: Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Voluntarism; Volunteers

01:20:53 - PRIDE memories

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Partial Transcript: What PRIDE moments really stand out in your mind?

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses some memories of being a part of PRIDE, both positive and negative.

Keywords: Ed Worley; Hal Rogers; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE); Rogers, Hal; Stories; Tony Turner; Turner, Tony; Worley, Ed

Subjects: Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Memories; New York times; Rogers, Harold Dallas, 1937-; Rogers, Harold, 1937-

01:27:38 - Helping create Bluegrass PRIDE

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Partial Transcript: Um, I wanna talk a little bit more about lessons learned, because y, you've got a really good perspective on it--the--you were, helped shape PRIDE in critical years.

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses how Eastern Kentucky PRIDE helped start the Bluegrass PRIDE program and the lessons learned from helping with this program.

Keywords: Bluegrass PRIDE; Compliance manuals; Ernie Fletcher; Hal Rogers; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE); Policies

Subjects: Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Fletcher, Ernie, 1952-; Rogers, Harold Dallas, 1937-; Rogers, Harold, 1937-

01:32:51 - The impact of PRIDE

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Partial Transcript: Um, what impact do you think Eastern Kentucky PRIDE has had on this region?

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses the impact Eastern Kentucky PRIDE has had on education and the economy.

Keywords: Bickford, James; Businesses; Economy; James Bickford; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE)

Subjects: Business enterprises; Children; Economic development; Education; Environmental education.; Environmental protection; Environmentalism

01:36:36 - Changing opinions of Eastern Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: I have a question for you, this might not be very fair, I'm catching you off guard completely, but it hit me, y, you said when we first started talking about, that your, um, older siblings had a very bad impression of the region when you all would visit down here.

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses how her sister's opinion of Eastern Kentucky changed over time. Engle also discusses the impact of PRIDE on all of Kentucky.

Keywords: Brothers and sisters; Ernie Fletcher; Fletcher, Ernie; Hal Rogers; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE); Rogers, Hal; Siblings; Sisters; Stereotypes

Subjects: Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Fletcher, Ernie, 1952-; Kentucky; Rogers, Harold Dallas, 1937-; Rogers, Harold, 1937-; Stereotypes (Social psychology)

01:40:42 - The future of PRIDE

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Partial Transcript: Um, of course you've been away from PRIDE for several years now actually--

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses what's left for PRIDE to do now, including continuing to provide clean water and sewers to as many people as possible, repairing damage from pre-law mining, and continuing to educate youth.

Keywords: Abandoned mine lands (AML); Creek restoration; Dead creeks; McCreary County (Ky.); Pre-law mining; Riverwoods

Subjects: Abandoned Mine Lands Program (U.S.); Coal mines and mining; Education; Environmental education.; Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Plumbing.; Sewerage.; Water

01:45:10 - General Bickford's role / getting on the Jay Leno show

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Partial Transcript: Well, I was gonna ask if you, there was anything that we didn't walk about that you think we need to, to get in there to--

Segment Synopsis: Engle discusses General Bickford's role in PRIDE. Engle also discusses a mistake she made in an interview that landed her on the Jay Leno show.

Keywords: Bickford, James; General Bickford; General James Bickford; James Bickford; Jay Leno; John Boy and Billy; Mistakes; Personal Responsibility in a Desirable Environment (PRIDE); Secretary Bickford; Secretary James Bickford

Subjects: Environmental protection; Environmentalism; Interviews; Leno, Jay.; Leno, Jay. Headlines; Stereotypes (Social psychology)