Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History

Interview with Marshall Lilly, June 17, 1975

Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History, University of Kentucky Libraries
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00:00:00 - Racing fillies against colts

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Partial Transcript: There's a great deal of interest now, Marshall, in the, uh, the race that's coming up between Foolish Pleasure and Ruffian.

Segment Synopsis: Lilly discusses some races where fillies would race against colts. He has found that most of the time, colts will beat fillies in a race.

Keywords: Colts; Fillies; Firestone (Race horse); Mares; Maskette (Race horse); Regret (Race horse)

Subjects: African Americans in horse racing; Derby (Horse race); Horse racing; Horse racing--Kentucky; Horses; Kentucky Derby; Race horses; Thoroughbred horse

00:11:05 - Riding for James Rowe

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Partial Transcript: You say you rode a few races, uh, for Mr. Rowe?

Segment Synopsis: Lilly describes his experiences working for James Rowe. Generally, Lilly seems to have enjoyed his time working for James Rowe.

Keywords: James Rowe; Rides; Running; Sysonby (Race horse)

Subjects: African Americans in horse racing; Horse racing; Horses; Race horses; Sysonby

00:17:15 - Sysonby and Colin (Race horses)

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Partial Transcript: Um, getting back to, uh, Sysonby.

Segment Synopsis: Lilly talks about his work with the horse Sysonby. Sysonby was one of the best horses to ever ride according to Lilly. Lilly compares Sysonby with the race horse Colin and gives the characteristics of each.

Keywords: Colin (Race horse); Jack Keene; Running; Sysonby (Race horse)

Subjects: African Americans in horse racing; Horse racing; Horses; Race horses

00:27:44 - Regret (Race horse) / Personal biography

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Partial Transcript: Is Regret the best filly you've been on, uh, Marshall?

Segment Synopsis: Lilly talks about his work with Regret briefly before talking about his career training horses. He had a very long career and worked for a number of different horse owners before retiring.

Keywords: Harry Payne Whitney; James Rowe; Races; Regret (Race horse); Riding; Rode; Stables; Working

Subjects: African Americans in horse racing; Derby (Horse race); Horse racing; Horses; Lexington (Ky.).; Louisville (Ky.); Race horses

00:46:19 - Reflections on his career

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Partial Transcript: Marshall, uh, um, you, you had a--you enjoyed your career, didn't you?

Segment Synopsis: In this last segment of the interview, Lilly reflects on the career he has had riding horses. He also discusses the personalities of the horse owners he trained for.

Keywords: Enjoyed; Riders; Wins

Subjects: African Americans in horse racing; Horse; Horse racing; Jockeys; Race horses

00:49:21 - Information about the recording

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Partial Transcript: Uh, this is--tape has been recorded on June seventeenth, nineteen seventy-five with Marshall Lilly, the famed exercise boy.

Segment Synopsis: In this final segment, the interviewer gives a synopsis of the interview he conducted with Lilly.

Keywords: Race tracks; Recording

Subjects: African Americans in horse racing; Calumet Farm; Horse racing; Horse trainers--Interviews; Horses; Race horses