Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History

Interview with Carol Taylor-Shim and Keenen McMillan, August 20, 2018

Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History, University of Kentucky Libraries
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00:02:23 - Personal background

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Partial Transcript: Uh, this is Adriana Sisko and the date is August 20th, 2018.

Segment Synopsis: Taylor-Shim and McMillan briefly talk of their backgrounds and how they became involved with the University of Kentucky.

Keywords: Director of Academic Life; Diversity; Employees; LGBTQ Community; Masters of social work (MSW); Shades of Pride

Subjects: African Americans; Employment--Kentucky; Gay community; Lexington (Ky.); Life; Social workers; Students; University of Kentucky; University of Louisville; Work

00:04:15 - Shades of Pride

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Partial Transcript: Okay, so Keenan you already mentioned Shades of Pride, briefly.

Segment Synopsis: Taylor-Shim and McMillan discuss the founding of Shades of Pride and the people involved in establishing the organization.

Keywords: Authentic self; Black LGBTQ History; Connections; Diversity; Events; Expectations; I Am Diversity Project; Identities; Martin Luther King Center; People of color; Shades of Pride; Speakers; Uncomfortable; Videos

Subjects: African Americans; Curiosity; Lexington (Ky.); Men; People; Posters; Talking; University of Kentucky; Women

00:11:13 - Identity

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Partial Transcript: I'll say this, for me I don't feel like my sexuality dominates my personality.

Segment Synopsis: McMillan discusses coming to terms with his sexuality in relation to his race.

Keywords: Compartmentalize; Experiences; Free; Identities; Intersectionality

Subjects: African Americans; Coming out (Sexual orientation); Mothers; Personality; Race; Sexuality; University of Kentucky

00:15:19 - Shades of Pride meetings

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Partial Transcript: So, um, when it comes to Shades of Pride, were there meetings, where were they, how regular were they, and what did you all do, what kind of stuff did you do together?

Segment Synopsis: Taylor-Shim and McMillan recall the initial meetings during the first year of Shades of Pride. A meeting involving LGBTQ representatives from every African American fraternity and sorority at the University of Kentucky is emphasized.

Keywords: Activists; African American fraternities; African American sororities; Conversations; Diversity; Excited; HIV; Identity; Inclusive; Mandy Carter; Outsource; Panels; Shades of Pride; Student centers

Subjects: African American lesbians; African Americans; College environment; College students--Social conditions; Gay-straight alliances in schools; Halloween; Honesty; Interracial dating; Lexington (Ky.); Pressure; Students; Transparency; Undergraduates; Universities and colleges.; University of Kentucky

00:24:53 - Other groups / Openness of Shades of Pride

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Partial Transcript: Were there any other undergraduate groups that worked with or socialized with, um, Shades of Pride, and what were those groups?

Segment Synopsis: Taylor-Shim and McMillan talk of other groups who partnered with Shades of Pride during the organization's early days. The interviewees also characterize the level of openness that Shades of Pride provides for its members.

Keywords: Allies; Clothing; Diversity; Expectation; Friends; Impacted; Initiative; Openness; Shades of Pride

Subjects: African Americans; College environment; College students--Social conditions; Coming out (Sexual orientation); Gay-straight alliances in schools; Gender; Identity; Lexington (Ky.); Race; Universities and colleges.; University of Kentucky

00:31:29 - Challenges of Shades of Pride

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Partial Transcript: Were there any, uh, challenges in creating or running Shades of Pride that you all remember?

Segment Synopsis: Taylor-Shim and McMillan describe some of the more challenging aspects of running Shades of Pride, including student turnover, and getting students who are comfortable with being active in the group.

Keywords: Advisors; Ally; Authentic self; Friendly; Inactive; Initiative; Momentum; Shades of Pride; Shy; Student centers; Student organizations; Transitions; Traumatic experiences

Subjects: Acceptance; African Americans; Anxiety; College environment; College students--Social conditions; Comfort; Coming out (Sexual orientation); Leadership; Lexington (Ky.); Minorities; Oppression; Planning; Talking; Truth; Universities and colleges.; University of Kentucky

00:38:05 - Restarting Shades of Pride

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Partial Transcript: You mentioned that you're hoping to start Shades of Pride back up again.

Segment Synopsis: Taylor-Shim and McMillan illustrate the challenges of restarting and recruiting for Shades of Pride each year.

Keywords: Aging; Community; Depression; Foundation; Guidance; New; Sense of community; Shades of Pride; Support; Underclassmen; Want

Subjects: African Americans; Anxiety; College environment; College students--Social conditions; Confidence; Leadership; Lexington (Ky.); Responsibility; Social media; Students; Universities and colleges.; University of Kentucky

00:41:33 - Generational changes

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Partial Transcript: I'll say this, um, I don't always think in terms of, like how--what's going on with the younger generation.

Segment Synopsis: McMillan summaries some of the generational changes that he has experienced through working with Shades of Pride, and how these shifts impact the character of the organization as a whole.

Keywords: Colleges; Community; Decisions; Meeting people; Millennials (Generation Y); Opinions; Socializing; Student centers

Subjects: Change; College environment; College students--Social conditions; Generation Z; Generations; Interactions; Lexington (Ky.); Social media; Space; Students; Technology; Undergraduates; Universities and colleges.; University of Kentucky

00:47:43 - Impact of the loss of the student center

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Partial Transcript: Here's two examples, okay, of like why the Student Center was great.

Segment Synopsis: Taylor-Shim and McMillan assess the impact of the loss of the student center on Shades of Pride over a period of three years. The interviewees also talk of the important role the student center played in creating a sense of community for the university in general.

Keywords: Appreciation; Community; General community; Martin Luther King Center; Mike Brown; Opinions; Outsource; Safe space; Shades of Pride; Strong individuals; Student centers; Together; Validated

Subjects: African Americans; College environment; College students--Social conditions; Culture; Discussion; Individuality; LGBTQ community; Lexington (Ky.); Representation; Social media; Universities and colleges.; University of Kentucky