00:00:00JEFFRIES: Um, okay, let's go ahead and, and do this. So this is--again, thanks
for coming. Will you just--will you introdu--will you say who you are, what you
do, where you're from, how old you are, if you want. First person I interviewed
didn't want to say how old they were. I'm like, "You're fine."
BOND: I'll be glad to say I'm an old guy.
JEFFRIES: --(laughs)--So your--go ahead. Name, rank and serial number.
BOND: My name's Tom Bond. I'm from Lawrenceburg, Kentucky. I work for the city
of Lawrenceburg as the building inspector, zoning officer, floodplain
coordinator, code enforcement officer, and now wastewater comptroller.
JEFFRIES: Okay. And back in the day in the '80s, you--how did you wind up in
Lexington in the kind of underground--in the music scene?
BOND: Well, I went to UK [University of Kentucky] out of high school and
went there for a few years and, and took a break and went back and
00:01:00forth. And I, I just loved Lexington, especially the, the downtown area and, and--
JEFFRIES: Now were you a Lawrenceburg boy?
BOND: Yeah--
JEFFRIES: Okay.
BOND: --that's where I was from originally.
JEFFRIES: Okay.
BOND: And sort of transplanted to Lexington. Lived there for 18, 19 years up
until about '98, '99 and then moved back to Lawrenceburg.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: I had a daughter at the time. Single dad raising my daughter by myself.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: And I kind of wanted to get back there so my daughter could spend time
with her grandparents and they could help me out. You know, she'd stay there
after school till I got off work and things, and I just really kind of wanted to
raise her down there. The school systems up here are kind of wild and--
JEFFRIES: Mm hmm.
BOND: --I just thought it'd be a better environment for her to grow up in.
JEFFRIES: So in--so roundabout, you were in college at UK in like the
00:02:00late '70s, early '80s?
BOND: I graduated in '80.
JEFFRIES: Okay.
BOND: I was in--at UK in '81, '82, '83. Went back in '86, '87. And--
JEFFRIES: And were you, were you playing music then?
BOND: Yeah, I, I have to, to credit my, my good friend Ken Hillman of Active
Ingredients fame. That was my roommate at the time and he played guitar and I
was like, "Man, you know, this--all this cool shit is happening." It's like,
"I've got to find some way to be a part of this." And so I went out and bought a
bass and started learning to play bass and played in a few different bands and,
and hung around. I was bartending. Fell into bartending because it was, you
know, fairly good money. Made tips and well, there was a lot of alcohol
too.--(Jeffries laughs)--That's always a plus, right? And so, uh--
JEFFRIES: So you--
BOND: --all my friends hung out at Café LMNOP. That's where all the
00:03:00musicians and artists were and just sort of a melting pot of everything. And I'd
been bartending out at 2001 VIP, which was the disco hell from hell. And--
JEFFRIES: Where was that?
BOND: It was--it's out at Athens Boonesboro, Richmond Road.
JEFFRIES: Oh, that's what--that's what I was thinking. That's--that's that place.
BOND: It's a strip club or something now. And so I got a chance to--things were
kind of dying there. You know, it was real hot for six months and then it sort
of fizzled off. And so I was looking to get into something else and they needed
a bartender at LMNOP and I'm like, "Hey, Bradley, I'm your man." You know.
JEFFRIES: Okay.
BOND: "I can do this. All day long with my eyes closed."
JEFFRIES: Had you been, had you been--were you kind of like a, like a regular
there at that point already, or?
BOND: Well, I had just turned 21.
JEFFRIES: Okay.--(laughs)--
BOND: You know, I'd been bartending at--I, I started at the other place right
before I was 21--turned 21 and started bartending there. About six
00:04:00months later, then, uh, I go to LMNOP.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh. Okay.
BOND: And so that's how I sort of got sucked into the scene through the, you
know, all the cool music that was happening and sort of discovered punk rock and--
JEFFRIES: But also part of that--and this is real interesting to me because I
think this happens to people a lot in college. You sa--you didn't know Ken
Hillman, right?
BOND: Uh--
JEFFRIES: Were you all assigned roommates?
BOND: No, no. It's a real interesting story how I, how I met Ken Hillman.
JEFFRIES: Okay.
BOND: It was just really a stroke of luck, you know, sheer coincidence. The year
before my freshman year, 'cause Ken's a year old--younger than I am, um, I was
over in the dorm and my roommate was dating a girl on this floor. And Ken
Hillman's sister was one of those girls that, you know, through association
became friends with. Well, you know, it's my sophomore year at UK and my
roommate comes in, he'd been down doing laundry and comes in with
00:05:00this little skinny kid with wiry hair. And he says, "You'll never believe who
this is." And I'm like, "Who?" And he's like, "This is Sheila Hillman's little
brother." And I'm like, "Oh my god, you're kidding." You know, and so from that
point on, you know, Ken and I hung out and became fast friends. And, and, you
know, he was listening to all this new music, and, and I came from sort of
background of, you know, sort of classic rock, LED Zeppelin, Who, Rolling
Stones, you know, all this other stuff--Pink Floyd. And, and so I--
JEFFRIES: I take it Ken was listening to like punk rock, like Eng--British punk
rock or something like that, or?
BOND: Well, you know, the--one, one thing that, that we listened to was--you
know, that we found common ground in was the Talking Heads. Because I was
already listening to them and so, you know, after that, it's kind of like, we
need to explore some other stuff, start branching out, finding other
00:06:00things, you know, going to shows, the local music scene, and then, bam--[claps
hands]--you know, it's like, "Wow, there's all this great music out there." And,
and, and what really drew me to the whole punk rock crowd and scene was, you
know, so much of it was politically motivated. It had so much more of a message
than, you know, the pop music that was going on or anything else. It just seemed
to have a little more meat and a little more substance. Seemed to be more relevant--
JEFFRIES: Mm hmm.
BOND: --to, you know, where I was. And, you know, I'm kind of a little bit of a
rebel and a little radical from time to time and, uh--
JEFFRIES: So you weren't--you didn't just want to hear music just to, like, have
something kind of playing in the background? You were like--wanted it to have
something to say, kind of?
BOND: Yeah, yeah. And, you know, stuff like the DKs, you know, they had a
political message. And, and so that, that was really kind of what, what drew me
in. It wasn't just a song about something that happened the other
00:07:00day. You know, a lot of it, you know, had a, had a relevant message or something
to say or, you know, some sort of agenda to promote.
JEFFRIES: Mm hmm.
BOND: So--
JEFFRIES: That--so like, let's see, so you--at a certain--at, at a point became
one of the bartenders at Cafe LMNOP.
BOND: Mm hmm.
JEFFRIES: But you had--you'd been, you'd been associated with--at that point you
were kind of already--
BOND: Oh yeah.
JEFFRIES: --in the crowd--
BOND: Yeah.
JEFFRIES: --or whatever. In the music crowd--
BOND: Yeah. And in that--
JEFFRIES: --playing in bands?
BOND: --and, and that just happened to be a, you know, a place for it to happen.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: I mean, it just showed up at the--at just the perfect time, uh, you know,
there in the mid '80s.
JEFFRIES: What was--what are some of the things that you think--I mean, what
made LMNOP kind of--did it have a particular quality about it that, that other
places didn't have?
BOND: Well, LMNOP was, uh, you know, it's sort of a--you know, it was
00:08:00sort of a melting pot. That's kind of a generic term, but the great thing about
LMNOP was is that it didn't matter who you were, or what you were, or how you
looked, it was a place you could go and be comfortable and be accepted. There,
there wasn't going to be anybody there to tell you, "Oh, you can't do that," or
"You shouldn't look that way," or, or whatever. It just--it was a place to be
accepted by your peers, you know, however you wanted to express yourself.
JEFFRIES: Mm hmm. You know, so many people say that that I almost accuse you all
are sort of--of colluding on the answer. Everybody says this. What--and it makes
me wonder, why there aren't more places like this or what it was--what--
BOND: I guess the thing about it was it was a safe place that you could express yourself.
JEFFRIES: Mm hmm. And y--had you ever--you hadn't been to-- had,
00:09:00hadn't found places like that--
BOND: Well, I think--
JEFFRIES: --prior to that?
BOND: --I think maybe--
JEFFRIES: How about some of the other clubs in Lexington?
BOND: --I think maybe Club Au Go Go, which was the--you know, prior to the
Bottom Line, which later was the Wrocklage. I think a little bit of that was
happening at Club Au Go Go, but I wasn't really old enough to get in so I
really, you know? And, and by the time I was 21, they were closing down and it
was the Bottom Line opening up.
JEFFRIES: Mm hmm.
BOND: And you know, the Bottom Line was a good place to go see bands, but it
just didn't have that, that vibe. It was--
JEFFRIES: It was more consu--there were--I went to the Bottom Line some and--I,
I got here after LMNOP. But it was a place that you would go see a band. I mean,
and maybe, maybe pick up a girl or something, I don't know, if you were lucky.
But like--but there wasn't any kind of--I mean, it was like a commercial
establishment, kind of. It was kind of a shitty hole in the wall bar, but it
didn't necessarily have--
BOND: It didn't have that flavor. It didn't--
JEFFRIES: Yeah.
BOND: --it didn't have the same feel. You know, uh, the-- and, and
00:10:00one of the cool things about Cafe LMNOP was the music was in the back and it was
kind of separated from the front bar. When there was a band playing in the back
you couldn't really--you know, when you were at the Bottom Line--[claps
hands]--you're part of the whole thing all at once, right there.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: You had sort of the--the front bar area was separate enough and, and far
enough away that you didn't really hear the music in the back. So you could
still hear the jukebox, you could still talk to people if, you know, if that's
what you wanted to be doing rather than back in the back, you know, slamming in
the mosh pit.
JEFFRIES: Right.
BOND: And they had that fantastic jukebox. You had everything from Elvis
Presley, to the, to the Platters, to The Libertines from Cincinnati, who was
local, uh, local band.
JEFFRIES: People speak very fondly of The Libertines. You're the--
BOND: Oh, they were fantastic.
JEFFRIES: --you're one of several people who--
BOND: They were fantastic.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: And, you know, the, uh, the jukebox, it was just such an
00:11:00eclectic mix of different styles of music. Had, you know, Dead Kennedys on
there, and punk rock, and there were even some country songs on there. And so
there was a little bit of everything going on.
JEFFRIES: Mm hmm. Which, which it sounds--I mean, a lot of times the review that
I get--or not review, but that I hear about LMNOP is that that, that describes
LMNOP itself too, kind of.
BOND: Mm hmm. Yeah, it's--you know, you'd go in and there'd be a lawyer in a
three piece suit and his woman or wife or whatever she was wearing a long dress
and then you'd look over and there would be Gerald Toombs with his foot high
mohawk, you know, that he would lay his head over on the ironing board and his
girlfriend would iron his mohawk out so it would stand up all night. And then
you'd look down and there'd be a drag queen and there'd be punk rockers. And,
you know, like I say, all the artists hung out there, all the musicians hung out
there. It was just--
JEFFRIES: Why would all these people even want to hang out together?
00:12:00
BOND: Well, you know, we like to drink.--(Jeffries laughs)--Most of them, you
know, liked to drink and party a little bit. And, um, I don't know. I, I guess
it was a, a, a place to go and be with people of your own ilk.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: Uh, so to speak.
JEFFRIES: So were the--I don't know--you know, like the, the, the village of--or
the island of lost toys or whatever from--
BOND: Yeah, yeah. And you know, it was, it was where all us misfits and dregs of
society could go and commiserate together.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: And uh, and that was just--it was really cool. And, and Bradley was--he
was great to work for.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: I mean, it was the most low key. I mean, it was perfect for me because,
you know, honestly, sometimes I'm not that motivated.--(laughs)--But it was
real, low key, low stress. Uh, I would come in in the afternoon and open up the
bar. Most of the time I'd-- because it was, you know, pretty slow in
00:13:00the afternoons and I'd shoot pool with the customers, and drink a few beers, and
Bradley would come tripping down through there and, "Honey, I'll be back later.
Don't get too drunk." And it's like--
JEFFRIES: He lived upstairs, right?
BOND: "Gotcha." Yeah, and he lived over the place, so, you know. And then as
the, the crowd would come in and pick up, then I would quit playing pool and
move to the bar and, and be behind there for the rest of the night.
JEFFRIES: Mm hmm.
BOND: You know, a lot of people kind of had a, a idea or misinformed or, or, or
whatever, but a lot of people thought it was just kind of a gay bar, and it
really wasn't that. I mean, certainly the--anybody that, you know, had that--if
you were gay, nobody was going to fault you for it.
JEFFRIES: Right.
BOND: There was, you know--it w, it was a lot of heterosexuals there, bisexuals.
Like I say, it was just everybody. You could just be there and be
00:14:00comfortable and nobody was going to judge you.
JEFFRIES: Mm hmm.
BOND: So.
JEFFRIES: Were you like, were you one of the--did you, did you, did you dress up
at all to go there or were you more of a--
BOND: I wore what I normally wore, which was usually spikes, and leather, and--
JEFFRIES: Okay.
BOND: --chains, and torn clothes--(Jeffries laughs)--combat boots--
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: --dyed hair. You know, for a while I had purple hair.
JEFFRIES: So kind of--was that--would that be--
BOND: Or Joe Strummer cut for a while. I didn't want to be like everybody else
with the mohawk, so I just shaved half my head, you know.
JEFFRIES: So you were, you were kind of like--had the punk rock aesthetic thing.
BOND: Oh yeah, I was, uh, you know, it was, uh, it was, it was my persona for,
for quite a while. And, and, and you know, I, I still have that attitude up
here.--[points to head]--I don't, don't quite dress as crazy as I used to. It,
it, it really does require some energy--(Jeffries laughs)--and maybe
00:15:00I just don't have that anymore. But, uh, oh yeah.
JEFFRIES: Talk about--so you were--you played, you played in a number of bands.
Is that, is that something you look back fondly upon?
BOND: Oh gosh, yes. I--and--
JEFFRIES: What were some of your favorite bands that you were in?
BOND: The first band I was in was with Ken Hillman's uncle. He was a good guitar
player. And I met him, you know, through Ken Hillman. And, and he kind of talked
me into it. He's--Brad is sort of--I think possibly he was a shaman in another
life. He's, he's, uh, he's wise beyond his years. And uh--but anyway, he, he
just told me one day, "Tom, you need to get a bass. You're a bass player."
JEFFRIES: Oh, neat.
BOND: And uh, it's like, "All right." So.
JEFFRIES: What was that band called?
00:16:00
BOND: We were the DTs.
JEFFRIES: Okay.
BOND: Uh, which had several different meanings. I don't know if you're familiar
with the Dune series.
JEFFRIES: Yes.
BOND: Well, you know the dirty Tleilaxu, right?
JEFFRIES: Actually, no. It's, it's been a long time since I read it, so.
BOND: They, they were the--
JEFFRIES: Oh, right. No, no, no. The words starting to, to form themselves in my brain.
BOND: And, so we were both a connoisseur of that, that Dune series.
JEFFRIES: Okay.
BOND: And of course, you know, everybody drank all the time so delirium tremens,
you know. It was just DT, but it had several different meanings for, for us. And
I believe the first, first time we ever played out was at the Adena Indian Mounds.
JEFFRIES: Oh.
BOND: We used to have parties out there and you could sign out the key from UK.
JEFFRIES: --(laughs)--Okay.
BOND: And it's out in the middle of horse country.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: We had the police called on, on us a lot out there.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: But it was in the middle of the day, so there wasn't a lot they could do.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: Plus, we had permission from UK.
JEFFRIES: That's funny.
BOND: And we played out there with, gosh, probably Ministry of Truth,
00:17:00and Happy Death, which was the Doss brothers, and Paul Kopasz played.
JEFFRIES: Mm hmm. That would've been the Johnsons at that point, maybe? Or Paul
K. & the Weathermen?
BOND: Uh, might have just been Paul K.
JEFFRIES: Okay.
BOND: Um, I don't know if, if they were using the Weatherman nomenclature yet or not.
JEFFRIES: Okay.
BOND: He had several different things that he did through the years. And,
uh--but we would have parties out there. We did one huge party in August, had a
beer truck and, and, uh, ten kegs of beer and we drank them all. And it was just
a really good time.
JEFFRIES: Did any of the bands you were in--did, did you all play at LMNOP ever?
BOND: No, I, I, I don't think we did. I think maybe LMNOP had maybe
00:18:00shut down at that point. We played at Great Scotts, and the Bottom Line, and--
JEFFRIES: Okay.
BOND: --and, uh--
JEFFRIES: What bands--or what band was that, that, that played there?
BOND: Um, DTs.
JEFFRIES: Okay.
BOND: And then, then, then probably the band that's most recognized or
well-known, I was one of the founding members of [The Mighty] Skullhead.
JEFFRIES: Oh, right, Okay.
BOND: And--which the original line up was me and Elwood Francis, and Will
Parker, and Pat Tilley. It started as a four piece.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: Later on, we took Sean McSorley in and, and had a five piece. And then
maybe he left and then we played some more. Of course, you know, Elwood was out
on the road, so we were only a band when he was in town. So it was sort of an on
again, off again thing.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: And at the point--things happened, I, I stepped out. I think maybe Fred
Sexton played bass for a few, few gigs and then maybe played rhythm guitar for a
few gigs. And then at some point Will Pieratt came in and that was
00:19:00pretty much the last line up. And they just did a reunion show--
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: --at, uh, at the Green Lantern the other night.
JEFFRIES: I know. Were you in that?
BOND: I play--I got up and played one of the songs that I had written with them.
JEFFRIES: Okay.
BOND: And that was just absolute blast.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: Just fantastic. Good times. And--
JEFFRIES: Did it remind you of--I don't know--was there, was there a sense of
community from like those--the kind of LMNOP days that, that--do you have a
sense of community that's--that sticks with you from there?
BOND: Oh, absolutely. I, I think all of us do. You know, a, a lot of us were,
were, uh, were young. You know, we were in our early 20s. We were just able to
get into bars. You know, most of my circle of friends and, and, and
acquaintances, people I knew, most of us were fairly young, early twenties.
JEFFRIES: Mm hmm.
BOND: And there was, you know, several people behind us that was all part of the
greater punk rock scene and, and, and music scene that was here in Lexington.
Back then was a fantastic music scene. Everybody was so motivated.
00:20:00There were lots of bands around town. Um gosh, everybody--almost everybody was
in a band of some sort or another, if not regularly at one time.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: Um, so--
JEFFRIES: Does Lexington strike you as a--
BOND: We all, we all kind of grew up together.
JEFFRIES: Yeah.
BOND: You know, and so, so even now, it's, it's, it's really great since the
Facebook thing happened, it's like, wow, you know, we've discovered all these
people that hadn't seen for years. The, the, the reunion show at, at the Green
Lantern the other night it was, was like a high school reunion. I mean, all
these people, you know, it was like, "Oh, I haven't seen you in forever! Oh my
gosh!" You know, it was, it was like--it's like a high school reunion, only way
cooler.--(Jeffries laughs)--Way cooler, because these guys I really did want to
see again.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: You know?
JEFFRIES: And so back in--did you, did you--do you stay in touch with many of
the people that you--did, did you meet many people at like LMNOP that
00:21:00you are still in touch with, or?
BOND: Oh gosh, I met everybody at LMNOP or one of the downtown bars. And, you
know, the--as you get older, you've, you've got a few friends that you hang on
to. It's, it's, it's--of course, of course back then in the '80s, you know, not
everyone had cell phones and things. And when you left, you just--you didn't
have any way to stay in touch with these people unless you were to write a
letter or something. And that just didn't happen. Not in our crowd.
JEFFRIES: Right.
BOND: Not that we weren't literate. But you know--and that's one of the things
is so, so many in the crowd were, um--(phone rings)--Oh my gosh--(Jeffries
laughs)--sorry about that. Um, so many of the people were politically motivated,
were intelligent. You know, they--eh, eh, you know, you, you could have a, have
an act--you know, if you went out to some place like, uh, gosh, what
00:22:00was that place on Richmond Road, they used to have wet T-shirt contests and
stuff? But anyway, you go in one of those places, you're not going to have an
intelligent conversation with anyone.
JEFFRIES: Mm hmm.
BOND: At all. You're just not. It, it, it just--that, that was the kind of
clientele. But, you know, the, the people that hung out, they were educated more
than they looked.
JEFFRIES: Mm hmm.
BOND: Um, and you, you really could have a, a, a deep conversation with
somebody. Maybe somebody that you hardly knew. And it happened to me regularly,
because as the bartender, you know, I got to see everybody.
JEFFRIES: That's what I was just going to ask you.
BOND: I got to talk to everybody.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: So--
JEFFRIES: Yeah, I mean, as the bar--I've, I've been a bartender a little bit,
too. And of course, it depends on where you bartend, but it seems like
bartending at LMNOP you probably had some, some provocative conversations from
time to time.
BOND: Oh yeah, I had, I had a really interesting conversation with a guy who
was in one night, never saw again. He was telling me about astral
00:23:00projection and how he would leave his body and go out. And, you know, this
wasn't anything out of the ordinary. You might think, "Wow, that's crazy, you
know, to sit down, talk to somebody about something like that in you know, that
sort of context." And it's like, it was just a normal occurrence. You know, the
out of the ordinary was, was a normal occurrence there.
JEFFRIES: Do you have any oth--do you have other fond--are there any memories
that sort of bubble up from time to time? Like recurring memories of, of things
that happened when you were bartending or, or just times at LMNOP?
BOND: Well, you know, it was, it was kind of an eye-opening experience for me
because, you know, really until I started working there, I really didn't know
any gay people. But, you know, I'm very nonjudgmental person. I'm very liberal.
You know, I don't care what you do on your own time. If it's not
00:24:00bothering me, then who cares? So, you know, that was a really eye-opening
experience. I'd, you know, never met anybody that was gay, hardly. Uh, there
were people in my high school that I later found out were gay but just didn't
know it at the time.
JEFFRIES: Mm hmm.
BOND: And so, you know, uh, they're just normal people.
JEFFRIES: Mm hmm.
BOND: And so it was an eye-opening experience. And you know, the, the, the whole
punk rock scene was new. It was just, it was just like another world. Because it
certainly wasn't anything that was traditional or mainstream. And, and I liked
that. I didn't want to be a part of the mainstream. That's, you know--
JEFFRIES: Why not?
BOND: It's just dull and boring and those people have such a closed mind. And
like I say, you know, you're in there, you meet somebody and you can talk to
them about anything. People were just so open.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: Open to new experiences, open to share. It was just really a
00:25:00great place.
JEFFRIES: Seems like a great place to be a bartender. I s--
BOND: Oh, it was.
JEFFRIES: I say being a bartender is--
BOND: It was.
JEFFRIES: --kind of a dream job if it's a good--if it's the right kind of bar.
And that seems like it would have been--
BOND: I had a great time every single night. It wasn't like working. It really
wasn't. It was like going and hanging out with your friends.
JEFFRIES: Well, that's sa--isn't that--did Bradley kind of--seems like he
create--we were talking about this before. It seems like you're sort of--you
would have been part of this, you know, kind of small group of people
that--where LMNOP was almost kind of a, a, a, you know--it was a, it was a job
but it was also just kind of like a, a, a life too. I mean, it was just
something you did every day.
BOND: Mm hmm. Yeah, it was a lifestyle.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: Um, and like I say, it was, it was getting paid to hang out with your
friends.--(Jeffries laughs)--It was, it was a dream job. Didn't pay a whole lot
of money. You know, the tips were alright.
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JEFFRIES: Sure.
BOND: But it just wasn't like work at all.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: It was just like going and going to a party every night--
JEFFRIES: --(laughs)--Or even--or every day--
BOND: --where you know everybody.
JEFFRIES: --(laughs)--in the afternoon, right?
BOND: You know, so.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh. So let's see. What else? Do you have--are there any--we're,
we're just--we're kind of--I may, I may have you come in and talk some more if
you want. Is there any like--is there any story that just, that just recurs to
you from time to time that--do you have any sort of favorite LMNOP story or
something that you were involved in or saw? Or something about Bradley maybe? I
don't know.--(laughs)--
BOND: Oh Br--gosh, I could probably go for an hour on Bradley. He was just crazy
and as, as outlandish as he wanted to be, he was--and he won't admit to it, but
he was really a regular person, you know? When, when he wasn't in his
00:27:00persona, you know, when he wasn't in drag, you know, sometimes, uh, some, some
people would go and have Sunday brunch. I forget the place, but they had a
champagne brunch and s--maybe down at the Rosebud or--
JEFFRIES: Mm hmm.
BOND: --one of those places.
JEFFRIES: Saratoga, maybe? No?
BOND: No, not Saratoga.
JEFFRIES: Okay.
BOND: There was another place, it was, it was right off Vine. I can't remember
the name of it. But, you know when, when he was just in his regular clothes and,
and wasn't in the middle of being a drag queen, he was just really a regular person.
JEFFRIES: Uh huh.
BOND: And very down to earth.
JEFFRIES: And fun to work for.
BOND: But, uh, with a flair.
JEFFRIES: With a flair, always.
BOND: With a flair.
JEFFRIES: Always with a flair.--(laughs)--Okay. Let's call this quits--
BOND: Okay.
JEFFRIES: --if we can. Thank you so much.
[End of interview.]