Interview with Leslie W. Whitlock, July 19, 2019

Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History, University of Kentucky Libraries
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00:00:02 - Early memories of the horse industry and his children's involvement

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Partial Transcript: Today is Friday the 19th of July 2019.

Segment Synopsis: Reverend Whitlock relates early memories of how his father taught him and his brother to ride and to work which built character. He also touches on how his father, as an African American, could not show his own horses.

Keywords: Cleaning stalls; Learning to ride; Racism; Stepfathers

Subjects: African Americans--Social conditions--1964-1975; Bowling Green (Ky.); Building character; Chicago (Ill.); Ohio; Work ethic

00:06:05 - Injuries and remedies

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Partial Transcript: Have you ever been injured working with horses?

Segment Synopsis: Reverend Whitlock relates his only injury of note and speaks of different remedies he uses for injured horses.

Keywords: 3-T Farm; Black salve; Breaking a horse; Clay dirt; Fathers; Hagyard-Davidson-McGee Associates; Kicked by a horse; Laminitis; Look ah Yondah (Race horse); Pink salve; Presque Isle Downs (Erie, Pa. : Racetrack); Quarter-horses

Subjects: American Saddlebred horses; Bowling Green (Ky.); Churchill Downs (Louisville, Ky. : Racetrack); Frankfort (Ky.); Injuries; Quarter horse; Remedies (horse)

GPS: Churchill Downs Racetrack, Louisville, Kentucky
Map Coordinates: 38.203057, -85.770049
GPS: Presque Isle Downs, Erie, Pennsylvania
Map Coordinates: 42.068522, -80.030940
GPS: Hagyard Equine Medical Institute, Lexington, Kentucky
Map Coordinates: 38.145414, -84.525482
GPS: The 3-T Farm, Allen County, Kentucky
Map Coordinates: 36.832026, -86.177839
00:14:46 - Racing locations and industry aspects

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Partial Transcript: Um, now I understand you've traveled to West Virginia, Louisiana, Pennsylvania with your horses, where else have you traveled with your horses?

Segment Synopsis: Reverend Whitlock tells about the different tracks he has taken horses to race and how what he has learned in the horse industry translates into other aspects of his life.

Keywords: Belterra Park (Cincinnati, Oh. : Racetrack); Character building; Churchill Downs (Louisville, Ky. : Racetrack); County fairs; Ellis Park (Henderson, Ky. : Racetrack); Indiana Downs (Shelbyville, In. : Racetrack); Mizz So So (Race horse); Turfway Park (Florence, Ky. : Racetrack); Value of money; Worthy Son (Saddlebred horse)

Subjects: Family; Grooms; Race tracks (Horse racing); Saddlebred horse, American; Value of money

GPS: Indiana Grand Racing and Casino, Shelbyville, Indiana
Map Coordinates: 39.589334, -85.824505
GPS: Belterra Park Race Track, Cincinnati, Ohio
Map Coordinates: 39.051497, -84.410704
GPS: Ellis Park Racing, Henderson, Kentucky
Map Coordinates: 37.916421, -87.543355
GPS: Turfway Park, Florence, Kentucky
Map Coordinates: 39.022628, -84.635671
GPS: Churchill Downs Race Track, Louisville, Kentucky
Map Coordinates: 38.203057, -85.770049
00:19:02 - Why he works with horses

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Partial Transcript: What is the most satisfying part of working with horses for you?

Segment Synopsis: Reverend Whitlock tells why he still works with horses, how satisfying it is and how he views his work.

Keywords: Bernard Flint; Builds character; Do It Again Dan (Race horse); Elbow and a whole lot of soul; Gift from God; Horse whisperer; Problem horses; Safe harbor; Trust; Youth ministry

Subjects: Children; Grooms; Trust

00:25:25 - The life of a horse trainer

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Partial Transcript: If you would, could you run us through a day in the life of a horse trainer?

Segment Synopsis: Reverend Whitlock touches on the different daily tasks he performs as a horse trainer while also working as senior pastor of a growing church.

Keywords: Clean stalls; Exercise; Feed; Grooms; Schedules; Training

Subjects: Horse trainers; Horse training

00:29:56 - Ollie White and his career as a trainer

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Partial Transcript: Um, I'd like to ask you a few questions about your father, Ollie White.

Segment Synopsis: Reverend Whitlock remembers his father, Ollie White, and his career as a trainer of champion Saddlebred horses.

Keywords: Anacacho Shamrock (Saddlebred horse); Champion horses; Conformation; Fathers; Generous; Humble; Jacqueline McDonald (Saddlebred horse); Milky Way Farm, Pulaski (Tenn.); Ollie White

Subjects: Chicago (Ill.); Horse trainers; Madison Square Garden (New York, N.Y.); Occupations; Saddlebred horse, American

GPS: Madison Square Garden, New York, New York
Map Coordinates: 40.750871, -73.994225
00:35:42 - A New Day Ministry

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Partial Transcript: Now we talked a little bit earlier about, um, it's called A New Day Ministry, is that correct?

Segment Synopsis: Reverend Whitlock discusses how he established his youth ministry, who it helps and his success rates.

Keywords: Basketball league; Cleaning stalls; Drug Court; Franklin County (Ky.); Hauling hay; No children; Success rates

Subjects: Addiction; Disappointment; Recovery; Satisfaction; Substance abuse; Youth ministry

GPS: Administrative Office of the Courts, Franklin County, Kentucky

Map Coordinates: 38.165806, -84.887731