Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History

Interview with Kyle Macy, January 21, 2020

Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History, University of Kentucky Libraries

 

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00:00:00 - First memories of basketball / High school basketball career

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Partial Transcript: Well, state your name for the record for us.

Segment Synopsis: Kyle Macy talks about how his father and childhood inspired him to love basketball. Macy talks about his family's move to Peru, Indiana, and his high school basketball career and reputation.

Keywords: Athletics.; Baseball.; Basketball games; Brothers.; Careers.; Childhood sports; Fort Wayne (Ind.); Free throw shooters; Free throw shooting; Friendship; Gyms; High school basketball; High school coaches; High schools; Interpersonal relations.; Mothers.; Northside High School (Fort Wayne, Ind.); Parental involvement; Parents.; Personal interests; Personality.; Pickup games; Raising children; Reputations; Sisters.; Sports.; Storytelling.; Tennis.; Work.

Subjects: Basketball coaches; Basketball players; Basketball.; Childhood.; Coaches (Athletics); Families.; Fathers.; Growing up; High school athletes; Memories.; Moving, household.; Peru (Ind.)

00:08:24 - Father's influence on his life

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Partial Transcript: --(Macy clears throat)--Would you say your dad's the most influential person in your life?

Segment Synopsis: Macy talks more about his father's influence on his life and love and interest in basketball. Macy describes what his father taught him about playing basketball growing up.

Keywords: Athletes; Athletics.; Basketball fundamentals; Basketball techniques; Developing skills; Familial influences; Free throws; Interpersonal relations.; Learning; Mentors; National Association of Intercollegiate Athletics (NAIA); Paternal influences; Pickup basketball; Pickup games; Practice; Routines; Scouting (Athletics); Shadowing; Skill building; Skills; Sports.; Team sports; Teamwork

Subjects: Basketball coaches; Basketball players; Basketball skills and drills; Basketball.; Childhood.; Coaches (Athletics); Families.; Fathers.; Growing up; Memories.

00:13:00 - More on his high school basketball career

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Partial Transcript: You know, I grew up in Indiana. It's the greatest high school basketball tournament of all time.

Segment Synopsis: Macy talks more about his high school basketball career, the team's successes, his statistics, and being Indiana's Mr. Basketball.

Keywords: Basketball culture; Basketball games; High school basketball; Indiana High School Boys Basketball Tournament; Indiana Hoosiers (Basketball team); Indiana Mr. Basketball; Indiana.; Public recognition; Publicity; Regional champions; Sectional champions; State champions; Teammates

Subjects: Basketball players; Basketball teams.; Basketball--Tournaments; Basketball.; Peru (Ind.); Reputations

00:17:59 - College basketball recruitment

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Partial Transcript: Well, good. So, uh, your senior year, you go through the recruiting process, and I know your father had a big part to do in that, but--and, and I'm not quite exactly sure, but, you know, you're Mr. Basketball, you're Parade All-American, you played in the McDonalds Classic, right?

Segment Synopsis: Macy talks about his experience with college basketball recruitment in high school. He talks about being briefly scouted by Bobby Knight at Indiana University and why he did not want to play there. He talks about his father's role in his recruitment. He talks about some of the colleges he visited and his final two choices: Perdue University and University of Kentucky. He talks about talking with University of Tennessee coach Ray Mears.

Keywords: Basketball games; Basketball practice; Basketball recruiters; Bobby Knight; Circuses; College visits; Fathers.; Peru (Ind.); Ray Mears; Universities and colleges.; University of Kentucky; University of Tennessee

Subjects: Basketball coaches; Basketball players; Basketball teams; Basketball--Coaching; Basketball.; College athletes; College athletes--Recruiting; College choice; College environment; College sports--Scouting; Knight, Bobby.; Purdue University; Scouting (Athletics)

00:23:48 - Freshman year of basketball at Purdue University and transferring to the University of Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: So, Perdue recruits you. Fred Schaus.

Segment Synopsis: Macy describes playing basketball for Purdue University his freshman year in college, including team dynamics, coaching dynamics, and why he decided to transfer to the University of Kentucky. He talks about the difficulties of transferring teams at that time.

Keywords: Basketball games; Basketball practice; Basketball recruiters; College transfers; College visits; D1 athletes; D1 basketball; Division 1 athletes; Fred Schaus; Injuries; Transfer players; Universities and colleges.; University of Kentucky

Subjects: Basketball coaches; Basketball players; Basketball teams; Basketball--Coaching; Basketball.; College athletes; College choice; College environment; College sports--Coaching; Hall, Joe B. (Joe Beasman); Purdue University; University of Kentucky; University of Kentucky--Basketball

00:28:19 - Sitting out the rest of his freshman year at the University of Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: Well, so now you go through the second UK recruiting process that you described with Joe B. and you're forced to sit out under the transfer rule.

Segment Synopsis: Macy describes the difficulty of sitting out the rest of his freshman year after transferring to the University of Kentucky. He talks about his preparation during that season for the next season when he would be able to play. He talks about the effects of the weight training. He tells a story about his first training session. He talks about how Coach Hall was one of the first coaches in the country to use a conditioning program. He talks about meeting Coach Adolph Rupp during this season.

Keywords: Art Still; Coach Adolph Rupp; Coach Joe B. Hall; College transfers; Conditioning; Conditioning programs; Confidence; D1 athletes; D1 basketball; Division 1 athletes; Game films; Larry Johnson; Losses; Mentality; Pat Etcheberry; Strength; Transfer players; Weight rooms; Weight training

Subjects: Basketball coaches; Basketball players; Basketball teams; Basketball--Coaching; Basketball.; College athletes; College environment; Hall, Joe B. (Joe Beasman); Rupp, Adolph, 1901-1977; Universities and colleges.; University of Kentucky

00:36:05 - Sophomore year teammates

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Partial Transcript: Well now, now you're going to start your sophomore season, okay.

Segment Synopsis: Macy talks about his sophomore season with UK basketball. He talks about the team's expectations and goals prior to the season beginning. He talks about the team's seniors and discusses some players in detail, including Rick Robey, Mike Phillips, Jack Givens, James Lee, and Truman Claytor. He talks about their personalities and their basketball skills.

Keywords: Abilities; Basketball championships; Coach Joe B. Hall; College seniors; Conditioning; Defense; Dick Parsons; Duke University; Focus; Interpersonal relations.; Jack "Goose" Givens; Jack Givens; James Lee; Leadership; Mike Phillips; Motivation; Offense; Personalities; Quitting; Rick Robey; Running; Senior players; Team balance; Team discipline; Team dynamics; Teammates; Truman Claytor

Subjects: Basketball coaches; Basketball coaches--Kentucky; Basketball players; Basketball players--Kentucky; Basketball teams; Basketball.; College sophomores; Hall, Joe B. (Joe Beasman); University of Kentucky; University of Kentucky--Basketball; University of Kentucky--Sports--History

00:44:59 - Coach Joe B. Hall

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Partial Transcript: Well, you know, my last one here is Coach Hall.

Segment Synopsis: Macy talks about Coach Joe B. Hall and his coaching style. He talks about his relationship with Coach Hall since his graduation.

Keywords: Championships; Coach Dick Parsons; Coach Joe B. Hall; Coach Parsons; Coaching styles; Discipline; Philosophy; Pressure; Team balance; Team discipline

Subjects: Basketball coaches; Basketball coaches--Kentucky; Basketball players; Basketball players--Kentucky; Basketball teams; Basketball.; College sophomores; Hall, Joe B. (Joe Beasman); University of Kentucky; University of Kentucky--Basketball; University of Kentucky--Sports--History

00:47:01 - Sophomore season at the University of Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: Well, you all open with a win over SMU at Rupp, at Rupp Arena.

Segment Synopsis: Macy talks about playing in Rupp Arena and Memorial Coliseum and the different atmospheres of each. He talks about the game against Indiana University Bloomington. He talks about his parents coming to his games from Indiana. He talks about the schedule for the season and playing on opponents' home courts. He talks about playing against University of Kansas in Allen Fieldhouse. He talks about playing University of Notre Dame at Freedom Hall in Louisville, Kentucky and meeting fans at the open practice beforehand. He talks about their losses to University of Alabama and Louisiana State University. He talks more about Coach Hall's coaching style.

Keywords: Bobby Knight; Coach Joe B. Hall; Dale Brown; Family support; Fathers; Fouled out; Freedom Hall (Louisville, Ky.); Gameplay; Gyms; Home games; Indiana University Bloomington; Louisiana State University; Memorial Coliseum (Lexington, Ky.); Mistakes; Mothers; Neutral court games; Ole Miss; Parents; Practices; Pressure; Rupp Arena (Lexington, Ky.); Southeastern Conference (SEC); Sports facilities; Substitutions; Team development; University of Alabama; University of Kansas; University of Mississippi

Subjects: Basketball coaches; Basketball coaches--Kentucky; Basketball players; Basketball players--Kentucky; Basketball teams; Basketball.; College sophomores; Hall, Joe B. (Joe Beasman); University of Kentucky; University of Kentucky--Basketball; University of Kentucky--Sports--History

01:03:01 - Sophomore season NCAA Tournament--First game vs. Florida State University

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Partial Transcript: Well--(Macy coughs)--no SEC Tournament.

Segment Synopsis: Macy talks about the SEC Tournament, which didn't start until the year after his sophomore season. He talks about the first game of the NCAA Tournament against Florida State University where the team was down by 7 points at halftime. He talks more about Coach Hall's coaching style and decisions and the pressure he felt to continue the UK winning tradition.

Keywords: Basketball championships; Coach Adolph Rupp; Coach Joe B. Hall; Effort; Final Four; Florida State University; Gameplays; Jack Givens; Kevin Grevey; Knoxville (Tenn.); NCAA Champions; NCAA Championships; National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA); Rick Robey; SEC Tournament; Southeastern Conference (SEC); Starters; Substitutions; Winning tradition

Subjects: Basketball coaches; Basketball coaches--Kentucky; Basketball players; Basketball players--Kentucky; Basketball teams; Basketball.; College sophomores; Hall, Joe B. (Joe Beasman); University of Kentucky; University of Kentucky--Basketball; University of Kentucky--Sports--History

01:08:54 - Sophomore season NCAA Tournament--Elite Eight game vs. Michigan State University

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Partial Transcript: So you guys go on to Dayton.

Segment Synopsis: Macy talks about the Elite Eight game of the NCAA Tournament against Michigan State University. He talks about the plays they planned for the second half of the game and his statistics for the game.

Keywords: Basketball championships; Coach Joe B. Hall; Elite Eight; Free throws; Jack Givens; Magic Johnson; Matchup zone; Michigan State University; NCAA Champions; NCAA Championships; National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA); Rick Robey; Statistics

Subjects: Basketball players; Basketball players--Kentucky; Basketball teams; Basketball.; College sophomores; University of Kentucky; University of Kentucky--Basketball; University of Kentucky--Sports--History

01:12:10 - Sophomore season NCAA Tournament--Final Four game vs. University of Arkansas

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Partial Transcript: So now you--on to the Final Four at the Checkerdome.

Segment Synopsis: Macy talks about the Final Four game of the NCAA Tournament against University of Arkansas. He talks about the importance of the Final Four and playing in the Checkerdome. He says that this game was probably the toughest of the tournament. He talks about some of the plays they used during the game. He talks about the importance and role of each player on the team during the tournament.

Keywords: Assists; Basketball championships; Coach Joe B. Hall; Defense; Jack Givens; NCAA Champions; NCAA Championships; National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA); Rick Robey; Statistics; University of Arkansas

Subjects: Basketball coaches; Basketball coaches--Kentucky; Basketball players; Basketball players--Kentucky; Basketball teams; Basketball.; College sophomores; Hall, Joe B. (Joe Beasman); University of Kentucky; University of Kentucky--Basketball; University of Kentucky--Sports--History

01:15:54 - Sophomore season NCAA Tournament--Championship game vs. Duke University

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Partial Transcript: So now, the hated Duke Blue Devils.

Segment Synopsis: Macy talks about the final game of the NCAA Tournament against Duke University. He talks about the press conference before the game. He talks about the team's plays during the game. He talks more about his transfer to the University of Kentucky and his impact on the team. He talks about his feelings about winning the championship and the celebration afterward.

Keywords: Airports; Basketball championships; Brothers; Celebrations; Coach Joe B. Hall; Double-doubles; Duke University; Fans; Fathers; Jack Givens; Mothers; NCAA Champions; NCAA Championships; National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA); Parents; Press conferences; Pressure; Purdue University; Rick Robey; Sisters; Statistics; Transfers; Winning

Subjects: Basketball coaches; Basketball coaches--Kentucky; Basketball players; Basketball players--Kentucky; Basketball teams; Basketball.; College sophomores; Hall, Joe B. (Joe Beasman); University of Kentucky; University of Kentucky--Basketball; University of Kentucky--Sports--History

01:24:00 - Junior year with University of Kentucky basketball

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Partial Transcript: Okay, so now let's go into your junior year.

Segment Synopsis: Macy talks about his junior season playing basketball at UK. He talks about his teammates, the team dynamics, his weaknesses and strengths as a basketball player, and the season's games and statistics.

Keywords: Basketball coaches; Basketball games; Basketball skills; Basketball tournaments; Basketball--Coaching; Coach Joe B. Hall; Dwight Anderson; Fathers.; Jay Shidler; NCAA Tournament; National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA); National Invitation Tournament (NIT); Personal strengths; Personal weaknesses; Playing styles; SEC Tournament; Southeastern Conference (SEC); Teammates

Subjects: Basketball players; Basketball teams; Basketball.; College athletes; College juniors; Hall, Joe B. (Joe Beasman); University of Kentucky; University of Kentucky--Basketball; University of Kentucky--Sports--History

01:38:53 - NBA draft and the Pan American Games

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Partial Transcript: Okay so now at the end of your junior year, you, you become Larry Bird, and they draft you after your--

Segment Synopsis: Macy talks about being drafted by the Phoenix Suns in his junior year of college. He tells stories from his experience playing basketball at the Pan American Games.

Keywords: Altercations; Basketball draft; Basketball games; Bobby Knight; Broken jaws; College juniors; Fights; Knight, Bobby.; NBA draft; National Basketball Association (NBA); Olympic basketball; Olympics.; Phoenix Suns (Basketball team); Portland Trail Blazers (Basketball team); Team dynamics; Team rosters; Wounds and injuries.

Subjects: Basketball coaches; Basketball players; Basketball teams; Basketball--Coaching; Basketball.; Memories.; National Basketball Association; Pan American Games; Storytelling.

01:47:20 - Senior year with University of Kentucky basketball

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Partial Transcript: Well, so now we go into your senior year, and you all have a great recruiting class if, if I have this right.

Segment Synopsis: Macy talks about his senior season playing basketball at UK. He talks about the talented incoming freshman class. He talks about the first game of the year against Duke University. He talks about Coach Hall's coaching style during this season and their difficulty figuring out their roles and playing style. He talks about their games against University of South Carolina, University of Arkansas, and Indiana University Bloomington. He talks about the UK Invitational Tournament (UKIT). He talks about Sam Bowie as a player. He talks about the schedule for the season and the tough teams they played against. He talks about the team's losses that season.

Keywords: Basketball games; Bobby Knight; Charles Hurt; College basketball; College freshmen; Crowds; Dirk Minniefield; Duke University; Dwight Anderson; Fans; Freddy Cowan; Indiana University Bloomington; Jay Shidler; Louisiana State University; Melvin Turpin; Rivalries; Rupp Arena (Lexington, Ky.); Sam Bowie; Samuel Paul Bowie; Sports fans; Sports spectators; Statistics; Team dynamics; Team rosters; Tom Heitz; UK Invitational Tournament (UKIT); UK fans; University of Arkansas; University of Notre Dame; University of South Carolina

Subjects: Basketball coaches; Basketball players; Basketball teams; Basketball--Coaching; Basketball.; College athletes; College seniors; Knight, Bobby.; University of Kentucky; University of Kentucky--Basketball; University of Kentucky--Sports--History

01:59:34 - Senior season SEC Tournament and NCAA Tournament

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Partial Transcript: You go to the SEC Tournament.

Segment Synopsis: Macy talks about the final game of the SEC Tournament, which they lost to Louisiana State University. He talks about the NCAA Tournament win against Florida State University. He talks about their game against Duke University on UK's home court, which they lost. He talks more about their difficulty figuring out their roles and playing style that season. He talks about his relationship with Coach Hall that season. He talks about his feelings about the end of the season and the end of his time at UK. He talks about his relationship with assistant coach Dick Parsons. He talks about his senior year statistics and UK career statistics.

Keywords: Attitudes; Basketball championships; Basketball games; Coach Joe B. Hall; Dick Parsons; Duke University; Florida State University; Last second shots; Losses; Louisiana State University; NCAA Championships; National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA); Purdue University; SEC Tournament; Sam Bowie; Samuel Paul Bowie; Southeastern Conference (SEC); Statistics; Zone offense

Subjects: Basketball coaches; Basketball players; Basketball teams; Basketball--Coaching; Basketball.; College athletes; College seniors; Hall, Joe B. (Joe Beasman); University of Kentucky; University of Kentucky--Basketball; University of Kentucky--Sports--History

02:09:43 - Professional basketball career and work post-college

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Partial Transcript: But you, you get drafted, you go to Phoenix.

Segment Synopsis: Macy talks about playing basketball in the NBA. He talks about playing basketball in Italy. He talks about working in banking, radio, and coaching basketball at Morehead State University after playing professional basketball.

Keywords: Chicago Bulls (Basketball team); Chuck Robinson; Fundraising; Indiana Pacers (Basketball team); Italy; Jobs; Jordan, Michael; Michael Jordan; Morehead State University; NBA draft; NBA finals; National Basketball Association (NBA); Professional basketball; Professional basketball players; Program development; Radio.; Recruitment; Scouting (Athletics); Team styles; Work.

Subjects: Basketball coaches; Basketball players; Basketball teams; Basketball--Coaching; Basketball.; Career moves; Careers & opportunities; Careers.; National Basketball Association

02:20:50 - Legacy at University of Kentucky

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Partial Transcript: Well, just two more questions.

Segment Synopsis: Macy talks about what he would like his legacy to be in basketball and at UK. He reflects on his basketball career and current career.

Keywords: Books; Career moves; Career reflections; Careers & opportunities; From the Rafters of Rupp; Histories; Personal reflections; Reflections; Relatability; Rupp Arena (Lexington, Ky.); Sports fans; Sports spectators; Storytelling.; Television shows; UK fans; University of Kentucky alumni

Subjects: Basketball players; Basketball.; Careers.; Legacies; Reputations; University of Kentucky; University of Kentucky--Basketball; University of Kentucky--Sports--History