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He talks about the attitudes of his parents, classmates, and community regarding sexuality, race, and gender.   Apologies ; Awareness ; Brothers ; Bullied ; Bullying ; Classmates ; Colleges ; Crushes ; Dating ; Different ; Fairview High School ; Hiding ; High schools ; Homophobia ; Homophobic ; Middle schools ; Name changes ; Parents ; Peers ; Perceptions ; Popularity ; Racism ; Racist ; School principals ; Sexism ; Sexist ; Social life ; Sports ; Student body presidents   Ashland (Ky.) ; Childhood ; Churches ; Closeted gays. ; Education ; Families. ; Gay men--Family relationships--United States. ; Gay men--Identity. ; Gays--Family relationships. ; Homosexuality--Religious aspects. ; Homosexuality. ; Religion ; Sexual minorities' families. ; Sexual minorities. ; Sexual orientation.     17             744 Decision to come out   So, um, it wasn't until I finished undergrad and went to England and worked in Parliament...   Davis talks about studying abroad in England after college and the experience that led him to decide to come out.   Avoidance ; Avoiding ; Colleges ; Dating ; England ; Hiding ; Ignoring ; London (England) ; London School of Economics ; Parliament ; Relationships   Closeted gays. ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Dates (Social engagements) ; Dating (Social customs) ; Gay men--Identity. ; Homosexuality. ; Interpersonal relations ; Sexual minorities. ; Sexual orientation.     17             898 His brother being outed   Um, I--to this day, um--I can tell you--I want to back up before I tell you how I came out...   Davis talks about an incident before he left for college in which someone told him his brother was gay and then he outed his brother to his parents. He talks about how these events changed his family. He talks about his relationship with his brother currently.   Brothers ; China ; Christian schools ; Colleges ; Critical ; Fathers ; Friends ; LGBTQ youth ; Mothers ; Outing ; Parents ; Reactions ; Regrets ; Resentment ; Therapy ; university of Louisville   Ashland (Ky.) ; Childhood ; Churches ; Closeted gays. ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Education ; Families. ; Gay men--Family relationships--United States. ; Gay men--Identity. ; Gays--Family relationships. ; Homosexuality--Religious aspects. ; Homosexuality. ; Religion ; Sexual minorities' families. ; Sexual minorities. ; Sexual orientation.     17             1226 Coming out experience   But, um, you know, my mom and dad, you know, they're something else.   Davis talks about coming out to his parents via a letter. He talks about their negative reactions and how they led to his desire to be an advocate for LGBTQ youth. He talks about how coming out to his boss was very stressful, but says that his boss' positive reaction gave him a lot of confidence and security. He talks about his difficulty fitting in to the LGBTQ social scene.   Advice ; Advocates ; Awareness ; Brothers ; Bush Administration ; Conservative ; Expectations ; Fathers ; Fears ; Fitting in ; Gay bars ; Hurt ; Jobs ; Judgment ; Letters ; LGBTQ youth ; Life choices ; Mothers ; Owsley Brown Frazier ; Parents ; Personal assistants ; Prodigy ; Questions ; Reactions ; Regrets ; Republicans ; Responsibility ; Scared ; Security ; Social scenes ; Suicide ; Understanding ; Young people   Ashland (Ky.) ; Childhood ; Closeted gays. ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Families. ; Gay men--Family relationships--United States. ; Gay men--Identity. ; Gays--Family relationships. ; Homosexuality. ; Sexual minorities' families. ; Sexual minorities. ; Sexual orientation.     17             1818 Role of religion in his life   Um, I want to hear more about the church you attended growing up.   Davis describes the church he and his family attended during his childhood. He talks about being very involved in the church, and also talks about the negative messages preached at the church. He talks about how his family's relationship with the church changed after his brother was outed as gay. He discusses his current feelings about church and religion.   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Barron talks more about coming out to two friends in his freshman year of high school and the aftermath of those friendships ending. He talks about his internal struggles, as well as his negative experiences with coming out to friends, teammates, and crushes. He talks about a former teacher who he now recognizes as a lesbian and her struggles with parents' reactions.   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He talks about his unsatisfying experience attending community college and how he did not see a future until he began attending Gender &amp;amp ;  Women's Studies classes at UK.   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He talks about how he was affected by the film &amp;quot ; Boys Don't Cry,&amp;quot ;  as well as by Chelsea Manning's coming out. He talks about the lack of non-stereotypical transgender representation which delayed his realization about his gender identity. He talks about his thoughts on various terms and labels for gender and sexual orientation. He talks about how his mother became aware of his gender identity and describes his coming out process. He talks about his feelings regarding various aspects of transitioning, including dysphoria and surgery.   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He talks about the role of religion in his current life.   &amp;quot ; Man&amp;quot ;  ; Comfortable ; Connections ; Connotations ; Earthly matters ; Female ; Non-binary (gender identity) ; Non-binary people ; Nonbinary ; Religious beliefs ; Role of religion ; Spiritual practice ; Toxic masculinity ; Trans guy ; Trans masculine ; Transmasculine ; Women   Coming out (Gender identity) ; Gender identity. ; Gender issues ; Gender. ; Religion ; Sexual minorities--Identity. ; Transgender identity ; Transgender people--Identity. ; Transgender people.     17             3616 Welcoming and unwelcoming spaces at the University of Kentucky   And so, moving back to UK.   Barron talks more about his experiences at UK, especially his feelings about the Gender &amp;amp ;  Women's Studies Department. He talks about safe spaces on campus, as well as places where he feels alienated or unsafe.   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Barron talks about the student group he and his friends created, called The Queer Project. He talks about the group's mission, as well as his views on what constitutes activism.   Activism ; All-encompassing ; Best friends ; Binary ; Clothing drives ; Clothing swaps ; Creative outlets ; Dr. Chamara Jewel Kwakye ; Expression ; Gay-Straight Alliance (GSA) ; Genders &amp;amp ;  Sexualities Alliance (GSA) ; Goals ; LGBTQ students ; Long-term ; Meetings ; Meg Coppala ; Mentors ; Missions ; Protests ; Representation ; Student groups ; Student organizations ; The Girl Project ; Trans people ; Women's March   College campuses. ; College environment ; College students--Attitudes. ; College students--Conduct of life. ; College students--Social conditions ; Coming out (Gender identity) ; Education ; Education, Higher ; Gender identity. ; Gender issues ; Gender. ; Sexual minorities--Identity. ; Sexual minority students. ; Student protesters ; Transgender identity ; Transgender people--Identity. ; Transgender people. ; Universities and colleges. ; University of Kentucky     17             4368 Relationship with the LGBTQ community / Social circles   How would you characterize your relationship with, um, the LGBTQ community?   Barron discusses his relationship with the wider LGBTQ community and talks about his current social circles and friends.   Cisgender ; Complicated ; Disconnected ; Family ; Friends ; Gay men ; LGBTQ community ; Perspectives ; Queer ; Social circles ; Social life ; Straight ; Trans men ; Transgender men   College students--Social conditions ; Coming out (Gender identity) ; Families. ; Friendship. ; Gender identity. ; Gender issues ; Gender. ; Interpersonal relations ; Sexual minorities--Identity. ; Sexual minority students. ; Transgender identity ; Transgender people--Identity. ; Transgender people.     17             4506 Feelings on the current political administration   And so hopping topics a bit, moving more big picture.   Barron discusses his views on the current political administration under Donald Trump. He talks about beginning to feel burnt out due to the constant need for activism.   Activism ; Burnt out ; Donald Trump ; Friends ; Future ; Healing ; Losses ; Organizing ; Personal ; Political administrations ; Process ; Protests ; Tired ; Urgent   College students--Attitudes. ; College students--Conduct of life. ; College students--Social conditions ; Politicians ; Politics and government ; Republican Party (U.S. : 1854- ) ; Sexual minority students. ; Student protesters ; Transgender people.     17             4681 Activism   So it seems like activism is very important to you...   Barron talks about his passion for activism since childhood and some of the influences on his interest in activism. He talks about the first protest he attended.   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              <text>    5.2    2018oh473_lgbtq028 Interview with Pamela Hammond, August 13, 2018 2018oh473_lgbtq028 1:28:39     lgbtq001 Outsouth: LGBTQ+ Oral History Project Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History, University of Kentucky Libraries    Appalachian Mountains. Somerset (Ky.) London (Ky.) Lexington (Ky.) Bisexual college students Bisexual youth Bisexual high school students Bisexuality. Bisexuals. Bisexuals—Relations with heterosexuals Sexual minorities. Sexual minority college students Sexual minority students. Sexual orientation. Sexual minority community. Coming out (Sexual orientation) Appalachian Mountains Appalachia Somerset (Ky.) London (Ky.) Lexington (Ky.) University of Kentucky Bisexual college students Bisexual youth Child abuse Foster care Native Americans Racism Donald Trump Pamela Hammond Adriana Sisko         0      Vimeo         video  &amp;lt ; iframe src=&amp;quot ; https://player.vimeo.com/video/284930170&amp;quot ;  width=&amp;quot ; 640&amp;quot ;  height=&amp;quot ; 480&amp;quot ;  frameborder=&amp;quot ; 0&amp;quot ;  webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen&amp;gt ; &amp;lt ; /iframe&amp;gt ;          0 Basic information / Early life   This is Adriana Sisko, and the date is August 13th.   The interviewer, Adriana Sisko, introduces herself and the interviewee, Pamela Hammond. Hammond introduces herself--she's 23, graduated with a degree in Russian, and works as a photographer in Lexington, Kentucky. She also lists the various places she's lived before--Somerset, Kentucky, Richmond Hill, Ontario, and Texas. She was born in Somerset when her mother was 18 and her father was 49, and as a result, her maternal grandparents took her to Canada, where she lived until she was 4 or 5, when she was sent back to Kentucky for preschool.   Appalachia ; Appalachian Mountains ; Appalachian Region ; Bisexuals ; LGBT community ; LGBT+ community ; LGBTQ community ; Richmond Hill (Ont.) ; Somerset (Ky.) ; Texas   Appalachian Mountains. ; Bisexuals. ; Richmond Hill (Ont.) ; Sexual minority community. ; Somerset (Ky.) ; Texas     17             156 Elementary school in Kentucky   All right, well, let's start with the beginning of elementary school in Kentucky, right?   Hammond talks about her elementary school and how much she hated it, calling it the typical small-town, Southern school, complete with still practicing corporal punishment in the 21st century. She was abused by her stepmother, and one of her teachers was complicit in that abuse.   Appalachia ; Appalachian Mountains ; Child abuse ; Corporal punishment ; Somerset (Ky.)   Appalachian Mountains. ; Child abuse. ; Corporal punishment. ; Somerset (Ky.)     17             398 Moving to Texas for late elementary school and early middle school   And you mentioned that--was it late elementary school that you went to Texas?   Hammond talks about her experience spending late elementary and early middle school in Texas and the reasons for that. Her father had fourth stage liver cancer and sought proper treatment in Texas (she tells a story about the malpractice he underwent in Kentucky). They moved back to Kentucky after she told her teacher her stepmother hit her. She liked Kentucky better overall, but missed the academic team events in Texas.   Appalachia ; Appalachian Mountains ; Child abuse ; Malpractice ; Somerset (Ky.) ; Texas   Appalachian Mountains. ; Child abuse. ; Malpractice. ; Somerset (Ky.) ; Texas     17             695 Middle school in Somerset, Kentucky   Um, when you came back to Kentucky, was that to Lexington or another city?   Hammond talks about her time in middle school in Kentucky. She didn't have a real rebellious phase in middle school, but had an &amp;quot ; emo phase&amp;quot ;  and huffed acetone, while having depression and being an honors student. She considers herself a terrible influence on a friend of hers during that time period.   Appalachia ; Appalachian Mountains ; Burnside (Ky.) ; Somerset (Ky.) ; Substance abuse   Appalachian Mountains. ; Burnside (Ky.) ; Somerset (Ky.) ; Substance abuse.     17             845 Appeal of &amp;quot ; emo&amp;quot ;  culture / Her friendship then with her now-boyfriend   So you mentioned that during that time period you were kind of, like, &amp;quot ; emo&amp;quot ;  or &amp;quot ; alternative&amp;quot ; , or--   When asked, Hammond elaborates on the appeal of the emo subculture, which reminded her of her sister's goth phase, and resonated with her depression from her abusive childhood. Her now-boyfriend also had a rough childhood and they bonded over that as adolescents. (Now they don't talk about their previous lives much.)   Appalachia ; Appalachian Mountains ; Child abuse ; Emo music ; Goth culture ; Goth culture (Subculture) ; Somerset (Ky.) ; Subcultures   Appalachian Mountains. ; Child abuse. ; Emo (Music) ; Goth culture (Subculture) ; Somerset (Ky.) ; Subculture.     17             1123 A summary of high school / Entering foster care   Um, tell me--we'll get deeper into that story.   Hammond calls her high school experience &amp;quot ; super chaotic&amp;quot ; . She had a &amp;quot ; creepy&amp;quot ;  boyfriend whom she dated until she went into foster care. She entered foster care at the end of ninth grade, because she was afraid of her dad, who had paranoid schizophrenia. Her first foster family treated her like one of them, but issues with her social worker sent her to a new family, a cousin of the social worker. Hammond had a therapist at the time, who was trying to help her and get her a new social worker ;  as a result, her social worker cancelled her therapy and she stayed with that family until she turned 18.   Appalachia ; Appalachian Mountains ; Child abuse ; Foster care ; Somerset (Ky.)   Appalachian Mountains. ; Child abuse. ; Somerset (Ky.)     17             1520 Activities and friendships in high school affected by foster care   Did your friends at school know about this situation, or did you keep it to yourself?   Hammond talks about the impact of the chaos of foster care on her school life. She participated in academic team and JROTC while she was with the first foster family, but had to quit most of her extracurricular activities after she moved to the new foster family. Her technology use was also heavily moderated and she only really saw her friends at school. Her friends knew about her life, but most couldn't relate to her lack of a parental figure.   Appalachia ; Appalachian Mountains ; Child abuse ; Foster care ; High school girls   Appalachian Mountains. ; Child abuse. ; High school girls ; Somerset (Ky.)     17             1715 Graduating high school / What going to college meant to Hammond / Issues with heterosexual relationships   When you graduated high school, how did you feel when you graduated?   Hammond talks about visiting her grandparents in Canada during and after high school. She had the option to live with them instead of being in foster care, but they couldn't afford college, and she'd have free tuition if she turned 18 while in the foster system in Kentucky, so she &amp;quot ; toughed it out&amp;quot ; . The rest of her family was very emotionally abusive, and told her she wouldn't graduate high school and would become a pregnant teenager like her mom, and so she felt she had to graduate college out of spite. The emotional abuse of being told she'd become a pregnant teenager emotionally affects her thoughts on heterosexual relationships to this day, despite having a long-term boyfriend.   Appalachia ; Appalachian Mountains ; Child abuse ; Somerset (Ky.)   Appalachian Mountains. ; Bisexuals--Relations with heterosexuals ; Child abuse.     17             1897 Awareness growing up of LGBTQ individuals / Impact of religion   So very tangentially connected with that, but hopping topics a bit, um...   When asked about her awareness of LGBTQ individuals, Hammond describes how she was always aware somehow of LGBTQ individuals. Her older sister, for instance, was open about her girlfriends, despite their dad and his side of the family being &amp;quot ; very&amp;quot ;  Southern Baptist. This sister was also pagan and at one point Satanist.   Appalachia ; Appalachian Mountains ; Bisexual college students ; Bisexual high school students ; Bisexual youth ; Bisexuality ; Bisexuals ; Sexual minorities ; Sexual minority college students ; Sexual minority community. ; Sexual minority students ; Sexual minority youth ; Sexual orientation   Appalachian Mountains. ; Appalachian Region, Southern--Social life and customs. ; Bisexual college students ; Bisexual high school students ; Bisexual youth ; Bisexuality. ; Bisexuals--Relations with heterosexuals ; Bisexuals. ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Sexual minorities. ; Sexual minority college students ; Sexual minority community. ; Sexual minority students ; Sexual minority youth ; Sexual orientation--Religious aspects. ; Sexual orientation.     17             2281 More on the role of religion in Hammond's childhood / Connection with music   Tell me more about the role of religion in your childhood.   When asked, Hammond further discusses the role of religion in her childhood. She spent a lot of time growing up with her nieces, who were her age, and their grandfather was a preacher, whom she considered fairly nice but occasionally made off-color jokes. Her dad never really went to church, even though he was raised in it. Her stepmother, who she says was &amp;quot ; a mail order bride,&amp;quot ;  was Russian Orthodox, so they celebrated holidays by the Byzantine calendar. Furthermore, her mother was pagan. She states that she's explored many religions, but now lacks a positive feeling for organized religion, even though she's not an &amp;quot ; anti-deist&amp;quot ; . The only thing she liked about organized religion was the choir. Later in college, she was a DJ ;  despite no longer being a DJ, she still searches for new music.   Appalachia ; Appalachian Mountains ; Bisexual college students ; Bisexual high school students ; Bisexual youth ; Bisexuality ; Bisexuals ; Sexual minorities ; Sexual minority college students ; Sexual minority community ; Sexual minority students ; Sexual minority youth ; Sexual orientation ; Somerset (Ky.)   Appalachian Mountains. ; Appalachian Region, Southern--Social life and customs. ; Bisexual college students ; Bisexual high school students ; Bisexual youth ; Bisexuality. ; Bisexuals--Relations with heterosexuals ; Bisexuals. ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Sexual minorities. ; Sexual minority college students ; Sexual minority community. ; Sexual minority students. ; Sexual orientation--Religious aspects. ; Sexual orientation. ; Somerset (Ky.)     17             2737 More on experience with LGBTQ individuals at home and at school   So, looping back a bit, was your sister the first, like, LGBTQ-identified person you personally knew, or was there someone before her?   When asked, Hammond elaborates on the LGBTQ individuals she knew, talking about her sister, as well as her father's friends in a cult called the Rainbow Family, who were largely lesbian couples. She considers this interesting, as the rest of her father's family was homophobic. At school, people started coming out as bisexual in middle school, and upon meeting people like her, she came out as well. She tells an anecdote about getting in a fight with someone who is now out as a guy, and states that girls could get away with holding hands with each other, but not with boys.   Appalachia ; Appalachian Mountains ; Bisexual college students ; Bisexual high school students ; Bisexual youth ; Bisexuality ; Bisexuals ; Sexual minorities ; Sexual minority college students ; Sexual minority community ; Sexual minority students ; Sexual orientation ; Somerset (Ky.)   Appalachian Mountains. ; Appalachian Region, Southern—Social life and customs. ; Bisexual college students ; Bisexual high school students ; Bisexual youth ; Bisexuality. ; Bisexuals. ; Bisexuals—Relations with heterosexuals ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Sexual minorities. ; Sexual minority college students ; Sexual minority community. ; Sexual minority students. ; Sexual orientation. ; Sexual orientation—Religious aspects. ; Somerset (Ky.)     17             3045 Realizing her bisexuality / Her family's reactions to LGBTQ individuals   So, when was the first time, even if it was just like in your own head, that you applied the word bisexual to yourself?   The interviewer inquires about how Hammond came to identify as bisexual. She then describes how she was never explicitly told not to act on attraction to the same gender, so she never applied that limitation to herself. Her mother is bisexual and some level of gender non-conforming.   Appalachia ; Appalachian Mountains ; Bisexual college students ; Bisexual high school students ; Bisexual youth ; Bisexuality ; Bisexuals ; Sexual minorities ; Sexual minority college students ; Sexual minority community ; Sexual minority students ; Sexual orientation ; Somerset (Ky.)   Appalachian Mountains. ; Appalachian Region, Southern—Social life and customs. ; Bisexual college students ; Bisexual high school students ; Bisexual youth ; Bisexuality. ; Bisexuals. ; Bisexuals—Relations with heterosexuals ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Sexual minorities. ; Sexual minority college students ; Sexual minority community. ; Sexual minority students. ; Sexual orientation. ; Sexual orientation—Religious aspects. ; Somerset (Ky.)     17             3260 Hammond and her friends coming out as bisexual and dating each other   So, you had mentioned earlier that during school, that you and your friends were, like, coming out to each other as bi?   Hammond talks about her and her friends' process of coming out to each other as bisexual in middle school and early high school. This coming out largely consisted of simply beginning to date someone of the same gender. Many of her friends dated each other, but she dated very few people, out of a fear of becoming a pregnant teenager.   Appalachia ; Appalachian Mountains ; Bisexual college students ; Bisexual high school students ; Bisexual youth ; Bisexuality ; Bisexuals ; Sexual minorities ; Sexual minority college students ; Sexual minority community ; Sexual minority students ; Sexual orientation ; Somerset (Ky.)   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She briefly lived in Ontario before starting at the University of Kentucky, but maintained contact with Jacob throughout that time period.   Appalachia ; Appalachian Mountains ; Bisexual college students ; Bisexual high school students ; Bisexual youth ; Bisexuality ; Bisexuals ; Domestic abuse ; Domestic violence ; Sexual minorities ; Sexual minority college students ; Sexual minority community ; Sexual minority students ; Sexual orientation ; Somerset (Ky.)   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She became friends with some girls she met during K Week, but never really partied, except a bit during senior year of high school and one house party in college, where she had to parent people, in addition to going to the hookah bar during college.   Bisexual college students ; Education ; Lexington (Ky.) ; Substance abuse ; University of Kentucky   Bisexual college students ; Education. ; Lexington (Ky.) ; Substance abuse. ; University of Kentucky     17             4395 Hammond's relationship with the LGBTQ community / What &amp;quot ; queer&amp;quot ;  means to her   How would you characterize your relationship with the LGBT community?   Hammond discusses her comparatively tense relationship with the LGBTQ community resulting from biphobic individuals and her own guilt as a bisexual woman who is in a heterosexual relationship. 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              <text>    5.1    2018oh478_lgbtq029 Interview with Meg Coppala, August 15, 2018 2018oh478_lgbtq029       lgbtq Outsouth: LGBTQ+ Oral History Project Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History, University of Kentucky Libraries    Childhood Families. Interpersonal relations Putnam County (W. Va.) West Virginia Religion Theology. Coming out (Sexual orientation) Gender nonconformity. Gender nonconforming people. Transgender identity Transgender people. Transgender people--Identity. Coming out (Gender identity) Dating (Social customs) Education, Higher University of Kentucky Universities and colleges. College environment College students--Attitudes. 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They discuss their awareness of LGBTQ people at that time as mainly through their religious research, which was a negative portrayal.   'Born again' ; 'Damned' ; 'Saved' ; Agnostic ; Anorexia ; Anxiety ; Awareness ; Baptist churches ; Beliefs ; Bible ; Body ; Calvinism ; Calvinist dogma ; Catholic churches ; Christian theology ; Church camps ; Church doctrines ; Churches ; Crushes ; Energy ; Evangelical ; Evangelism ; Family ; Fathers ; Friends ; Grandparents ; Heaven ; Homophobia ; Homophobic ; Inattentive ; Indoctrinated ; Interests ; Internet ; Late bloomers ; LGBTQ people ; Messages ; Middle schools ; Mothers ; Non-binary (Gender identity) ; Non-binary people ; Obsessions ; Obsessive personality ; Parents ; Presbyterian churches ; Puberty ; Religious ; Religious beliefs ; Social life ; Uncomfortable ; Withdrawn ; Wretched Radio ; Wrong   Childhood ; Families. ; Friendship. ; Homosexuality--Religious aspects. ; Interpersonal relations ; Putnam County (W. 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He was born in rural Western Kentucky near Bowling Green.   Insurance agencies ; Rural towns   Bowling Green (Ky.) ; Lexington (Ky.) ; University of Kentucky     17             31 Upbringing / Relationship with faith and organized religion   So, let's start at the beginning. Growing up. Tell me about that.    Mers shares about his upbringing in Franklin, Kentucky. Mers characterizes Franklin as a rural, conservative, and agricultural community. He describes his family growing up as committed Southern Baptists who frequently went to church. Mers discusses his relationship with organized religion and faith over the years, describing distinct changes in his relationship with organized religion as he became older.   Bible Belt ; Brothers ; Faith ; Farming ; Parents ; Rural towns ; Siblings ; Sins ; Small towns ; Southern Baptist Church ; Volunteer work   Agriculture--Kentucky ; Agriculture. ; Conservatism. ; Franklin (Ky.) ; Homophobia. ; Liberation theology. ; Religion. ; Sexuality. ; Southern Baptist Convention. ; Volunteers.   36.723375, -86.577812 17 Franklin (Ky.)           145 Early schooling    Tell me about elementary school specifically. How would you summarize that experience?   Mers speaks positively about his experience in elementary school and middle school. He notes that both the elementary and middle schools he attended were very small and close knit. Mers mentions that his grandfather was the mayor of Franklin at the time. Mers says that eventually he and his family moved to Warren County, within the Bowling Green school district, so he ended up attending a high school much larger than the schools that he previously attended.     Communities ; Community ; Rural towns ; Small towns   Bowling Green (Ky.) ; Education--Kentucky ; Elementary schools. ; High schools ; Mayors. ; Middle schools ; Sports. ; Warren County (Ky.)     17             276 Awareness of LGBTQ people and topics growing up / Subject of homosexuality at church   And growing up, what was your awareness of the existence of LGBTQ people, or even just associated words or notions?   Mers describes his awareness as a young person of LGBTQ individuals and associated subjects. Mers primarily talks about his aunt, who identifies as a lesbian. He describes the strong connection he felt with her. Mers talks about how various members of his family viewed his aunt and her sexual identity. Mers also talks about the instances in which homosexuality came up as a topic at the church he and his family attended. He describes the stance their church took on homosexuality as being 'fire and brimstone'.    Aunts ; Brothers ; Families ; Family ; Fire and brimstone ; Homophobic slurs ; LGBTQ family members ; Organized religion ; Relationships ; Roommates ; Sisters ; Slurs   Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Gay men--Relations with lesbians ; Homophobia. ; Homosexuality--Religious aspects. ; Homosexuality--Social aspects. ; Lesbians. ; Religion.     17             562 Dating during high school / Graduating from high school   And when you were in middle school and high school, were other kids dating at your school?   Mers talks about the dating scene at his high school. He describes the scene as heteronormative, and talks about how he participated in heterosexual dating simply because it was what was expected of him and other kids. He was not able to realize other possibilities at the time, Mers says. Mers also describes the experience of graduating from high school as bittersweet. While he liked the kids he attended high school with and has many good memories, he also looked forward to moving away from Bowling Green and to a larger city. He was not sure why at the time.    Attraction ; Closet ; Closeted ; Dating ; Heteronormativity ; Realization   Bowling Green (Ky.) ; Closeted gays. ; Gay men--Relations with heterosexual women ; High school ; Relationships.     17             746 Transition from Bowling Green to Lexington, Kentucky / Attending the University of Kentucky   So that transition to Lexington, that happened after your Europe trip, I'm assuming?   Mers talks about moving from Bowling Green to Lexington in order to attend the University of Kentucky. Mers talks about his first roommate on campus, his dormitory Holmes Hall, and his majors. He discusses how he developed a passion for political science and history (the majors he ultimately selected during undergrad) during childhood. Mers summarizes his overall experience at the University of Kentucky.    Changes ; Life upheavals ; Majors ; Roommates ; Transitions ; Undergraduate   History. ; Political science. ; Politics. ; Sexual minority students. ; University of Kentucky     17             938 Reconsidering his sexuality during college / Realizing and navigating a gay identity    You mentioned that it was during college that you started reconsidering your sexuality again, in terms of trying to like put a word to it and figure out what was going on.   Mers describes his developing understanding of his sexual identity during college. His understanding shifted from thinking he was straight with some homosexual tendencies, to considering a bisexual identity, then later to accepting the gay identity that was accurate to his preferences. Mers also talks about a small circle of individuals who, during his time at the University of Kentucky, knew about his sexual preferences. He describes himself and others in his circle as being fairly, but not completely, closed about their sexual preferences. They would visit other cities to see gay bars and clubs, safe and beyond the purvey of other University of Kentucky students. Mers describes the reasons behind their caution. He talks about the measures he took, as well as the benefits he experienced by being able to pass as a heterosexual man.     Being out ; Caution ; Closeted ; Gay.com ; Jim Gray ; Outness ; Passing (Sexual identity) ; Privacy ; Strategy ; Yahoo chatrooms   Bisexuality. ; Chatrooms, Online ; Closeted gays. ; Drag shows ; Gay bars ; Gay men--Identity. ; Gay men--Relations with heterosexual women ; Gay men--Sexual behavior. ; Gay men. ; Gay pride parades ; Gay youth ; Masculinity     17             1425 Coming out / Being out privately and closeted publicly   Did you ever stop covering?   Mers discusses becoming more out and open regarding his sexuality as he got older. Mers also talks about coming out to friends and family members. He details his coming out to both of his parents and their respective reactions at the time. Based on the reactions he received, Mers decided not to be absolutely out and open about his sexuality. He talks about for years being out in his private life but closeted publicly. He talks about the journey his parents took, particularly his mother, to come around regarding his sexuality.   Arguing ; Arguments ; Aunts ; Families ; Family ; Fathers ; LGBTQ family members ; Mothers   Church. ; Closeted gays. ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Foster children. ; Foster parents. ; Gay men. ; Gay parents. ; Homophobia. ; Homosexuality--Religious aspects. ; Mother's Day. ; Same-sex marriage     17             1789 The impact of his first long-term relationship with a man / Graduating from college, working in losing political campaigns, and becoming an assistant golf professional   And, earlier you mentioned that at a point you realized that you weren't actually bisexual, you were gay--or are gay.   Mers talks about his mid-twenties. He describes the way his first long-term relationship with a man impacted him, and how it allowed him to realize that he could forge deep romantic emotional connections with men that he could not with women. Mers briefly talks about his career path immediately after he graduated from the University of Kentucky. After working on several losing political campaigns, Mers became a golf pro for a period of time.    Assistant golf professionals ; Emotional connections ; Golf courses ; Golf professionals ; LGBT community ; LGBTQ community ; Love   Bisexuality. ; Friendship. ; Gay men--Identity. ; Gay men. ; Kentucky--Politics and government ; Political campaigns. ; Politics. ; Relationships. ; University of Kentucky     17             1924 Volunteering for and working in political campaigns   Tell me more about working on campaigns, 'cause I didn't you started that young.    Mers tracks the history of his campaign involvement back to age eleven, when he idolized Bill Clinton. He briefly discusses the first seven campaigns he worked on throughout his late teens and early twenties. He also discusses what drew him to that kind of work.    Al Gore ; Bill Clinton ; College Democrats at the University of Kentucky ; Democrats ; George Bush ; George Bush, Jr. ; UK College Democrats ; UK College Dems   Elected officials ; Kentucky--Politics and government ; Political campaigns. ; Political parties. ; Politicians--Kentucky ; Politics.     17             2076 Political work during his twenties / Being closeted professionally   So keep walking me through your twenties.    Mers describes the political work he engaged in during his twenties. He briefly mentions working for Al Gore's presidential campaign, then lists off other political jobs he held including working with Jody Richards while she was Speaker of the Kentucky House of Representatives, working for the Senate Minority leadership, working for the Kentucky Democratic Party, as well as individual campaigns throughout. During this period, Mers describes himself as professionally closeted. Over time, he became more professionally open about his sexuality. Mers says that becoming more involved in social justice, such as working with Lexington Fairness, inspired him to do so.    Al Gore ; Ernesto Scorsone ; Jody Richards   Closeted gays. ; Democratic Party (Ky.) ; Elections. ; Frankfurt (Ky.) ; Gay men. ; Jody Richards ; Kentucky--Politics and government ; Political campaigns. ; Politicians--Kentucky ; Politics. ; Presidential campaigns     17             2222 Meeting and eventually marrying his husband / Lexington Gay Sports Commission   And so, tell me about, um, when you met Cody, was it?   Mers shares how he and his now-husband met and how they eventually became married. He also talks about leading the softball team that was part of the Lexington Gay Sports Commission. Mers discusses which of his family members attended the wedding and which did not.    Families ; Family ; Husbands ; Lexington Gay Sports Commission ; Parents ; Siblings   Gay bars ; Gay couples. ; Gay men. ; Same-sex marriage ; University of Kentucky ; Weddings.     17             2508 Fostering to adopt children   Tell me about fostering to adopt.    Mers discusses his experience fostering to adopt children. He elaborates on the highs and lows of the process, and he also talks about the experience of parenting as part of a married same-sex couple.    Adopting ; Children ; Families ; Family ; Foster children ; Foster parents ; Fostering   Adoption. ; Fostering family ; Gay adoption. ; Gay couples--Legal status, laws, etc.--United States. ; Gay men. ; Gay parents.     17             2668 Social circles / Acting as chair for Lexington Fairness and relationship with the broader LGBTQ community    That brings me to one of my next questions. So, your social circles, who do you surround yourself with?   Mers describes his social circles and who he chooses to socialize with. Mers also talks about his time as chair of Lexington Fairness, a position he recently stepped down from. Mers describes the work as an honor, and talks about how time with Fairness as well as other social justice-oriented ventures broadened his social circles. Mers also characterizes his personal and professional relationship with the broader LGBTQ community. He elaborates on his work in social justice, including talking about his position as commissioner of the Lexington Human Rights Commission.   Activism ; Extroverts ; Introverts ; LGBT community ; LGBTQ community ; Political advocacy ; Political advocates ; Protests ; Socializing   Friendship. ; Gay pride parades ; Social justice.     17             2900 The perpetual process of coming out during his run for Kentucky House of Representatives     And my next question is shifting gears slightly. Um, as you know coming out can be a perpetual process, particularly as you meet new people. So, do you ever find yourself coming out still, and in what situations does that tend to come up in?   Mers discusses his run for the Kentucky House of Representatives during 2017. He describes that campaign as a perpetual process of coming out. Mers also talks about feeling as if others focused on his sexual identity to the point of eclipsing other potentially more important political concerns and aspects of his platform. Mers speculates as to why people focused on his sexual identity, adding that some people had good and supportive intentions whereas others had antagonistic intentions.    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Acceptance ; Belonging ; LGBT community ; LGBTQ community ; Safety ; Welcoming   Fayette County (Ky.) ; Gay men--United States--Social conditions. ; Gay men. ; Gay pride parades ; Jessamine County (Ky.) ; Lexington (Ky.) ; Sexual minorities.     17             3303 Thoughts on the Trump administration and the potential impact on marginalized communities   Uh so earlier--and again leaping topics--earlier you mentioned Donald Trump and I always ask this in all the interviews usually toward the end.   Mers talks about his thoughts and feeling regarding Donald Trump. He describes what members of the government he thinks present significant risk to marginalized communities and why.    Donald Trump ; Hatred ; LGBT community ; LGBTQ community ; Marginalization ; Marginalized communities ; Political agreement ; Political disagreement ; Social circles ; Trump administration   Homophobia. ; Politics. ; Racism. ; Social media.     17             3429 Hopes for the future   And this is gonna be my last question. Um, what gives you hope for the future?    Mers shares what gives him hope for the future. He talks about how looking back on his childhood and seeing how much progress the LGBTQ community has made gives him hope. He uses a scene from the &amp;quot ; Will &amp;amp ;  Grace&amp;quot ;  television series reboot to illustrate the kind of progress he has seen.    Celebration ; Childhood ; Diversity ; Future ; Hope ; Looking back ; Progress ; Representation ; Rural LGBTQ kids   Equality. ; Gay men--United States--Social conditions. ; Sexual minorities. ; Will and Grace (Television program : 1998-2006)     17             interview Josh Mers, once a candidate for the Kentucky House of Representatives in the 2018 Democratic Primary, shares his life journey navigating politics, fatherhood, and marriage as a gay man. Mers talks at length about his numerous political and activist efforts, including once working as chair of Lexington Fairness and working as the commissioner of the Lexington Human Rights Commission. Mers discusses going from being professionally closeted, particularly while he worked on high profile political campaigns, to his sexual identity becoming well known as an effect of his social justice work. Mers talks about how he met his husband and their experiences fostering to adopt children.   No transcript.   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She talks about meeting her second husband, Tom, at this time and their desire to start a school which led to the creation of the arts camp. She talks about their open relationship and her relationships with other lesbians during this time. She talks about her passion for teaching.   Alternative ; Art camps ; Artists ; Arts ; Arts camps ; Buildings ; Children ; Community-building ; Depression ; Divorce ; Group houses ; Hippies ; Homesteaders ; Kentucky Arts Commission ; Kentucky Arts Council ; Kids ; Lesbian relationships ; Liberal ; Married ; Military spouses ; Military wives ; Milwaukee (Wis.) ; Milwaukee Free University ; Monticello (Ky.) ; Open relationships ; Partners ; Passions ; Radical ; Robert ; Salons ; Schools ; Sex ; Society ; Summer camps ; Teaching ; Tom ; Women   Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Homosexuality--Social aspects. ; Lesbianism. ; Lesbians ; Lesbians--Identity. ; Lesbians--United States--Social conditions. ; Marriage ; Sexual minorities--Identity. ; Sexual minorities. ; Sexual orientation. ; Vietnam War, 1961-1975--Veterans. ; Wayne County (Ky.)     17             2004 Current views on religion   Um, how would you characterize your current relationship with religion?   Overbeck briefly discusses her current views on religion.   'Seeker' ; Meditation ; Mindfulness ; Organized religion ; Reincarnation ; Spiritual ; Unitarian churches ; Yoga   Religion     17             2080 Raising her son   What was it like raising Will?   Overbeck talks about her parenting philosophy, sharing joint custody with her ex-husband Tom, and raising her son while in lesbian relationships.   Arguments ; Child-rearing ; Children ; Divorce ; Joint custody ; Lesbian relationships ; Lexington (Ky.) ; Parenting ; Sex ; Sons ; Tom ; Will ; Woman-identified   Child rearing ; Homosexuality--Social aspects. ; Lesbianism. ; Lesbians ; Lesbians--Family relationships. ; Lesbians--Identity. ; Lesbians--United States--Social conditions. ; Marriage ; Sexual minorities' families. ; Sexual minorities--Identity. ; Sexual minorities. ; Sexual orientation.     17             2391 Obtaining her master's degree and teaching   You used the phrase 'woman-identified' earlier.   Overbeck talks about her interest in feminism. She talks about needing to obtain her master's degree in order to teach in Kentucky. She talks briefly about her teaching career.   Behavior disorders ; Employment ; English ; Fayette County (Ky.) ; Jessamine County (Ky.) ; Jobs ; Liberated ; Master's degrees ; Special education ; University of Kentucky ; Woman-identified   Feminism ; Teachers ; Teaching ; Women     17             2589 Current partner and her son   And that's where I met my current spouse.   Overbeck talks about meeting her current partner while teaching and discusses their fear of being out in Lexington during their teaching careers. She talks about her son's awareness of her lesbian relationships and his opinion of them. She talks about how society has become more accepting over time.   Acceptance ; Accepting ; Assumptions ; Being out ; Child-rearing ; Childhood ; Collaborative teachers ; Conservative ; Dating ; Fathers ; Fears ; Fired ; Friends ; Homophobic ; Janet ; Male identity ; Openness ; Outspoken ; Partners ; Prejudice ; Safety ; Secrets ; Sons ; Substitute teachers ; Teenagers ; Wife ; Will   Child rearing ; Closeted gays. ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Homophobia. ; Homosexuality--Social aspects. ; Lesbianism. ; Lesbians ; Lesbians--Family relationships. ; Lesbians--Identity. ; Lesbians--United States--Social conditions. ; Lexington (Ky.). ; Marriage ; Sexual minorities' families. ; Sexual minorities--Identity. ; Sexual minorities. ; Sexual orientation.     17             3040 Safe spaces in Lexington, Kentucky   And what are--what spaces do you and Janet feel welcome in and safe in as two women in a relationship together?   Overbeck talks about places in Lexington where she feels safe to be open about her sexuality.   Affirming ; Being out ; Community ; Gay-Straight Alliance (GSA) ; Genders &amp;amp ;  Sexualities Alliance (GSA) ; Neighborhood groups ; Neighborhoods ; Openness ; Pride Center ; Pride Community Services Organization (PCSO) ; Safe spaces ; Supportive ; Teaching ; Unitarian churches ; Welcoming ; Women   Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Homosexuality--Social aspects. ; Lesbianism. ; Lesbians ; Lesbians--Identity. ; Lesbians--United States--Social conditions. ; Lexington (Ky.). ; Sexual minorities--Identity. ; Sexual minorities. ; Sexual orientation.     17             3259 Importance of female and LGBTQ solidarity   So why is important to you to have this feeling of solidarity and this feeling of being surrounded by like, like-minded women?   Overbeck talks about why solidarity among women is important. She talks about her interest in supporting the LGBTQ community, particularly transgender youth. She talks about how she personally feels about being gay.   Acceptance ; Alternative ; Gay-Straight Alliance (GSA) ; Genders &amp;amp ;  Sexualities Alliance (GSA) ; Happy ; Hiding ; Hippies ; Like-minded ; Males ; Men ; Pride Center ; Pride Community Services Organization (PCSO) ; Secrets ; Solidarity ; Support ; Transgender youth ; Women-identified   Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Feminism ; Homosexuality--Social aspects. ; Lesbianism. ; Lesbians ; Lesbians--Identity. ; Lesbians--United States--Social conditions. ; Lexington (Ky.). ; Sexual minorities--Identity. ; Sexual minorities. ; Sexual orientation. ; Transgender identity ; Transgender people.     17             3459 Changes in the Lexington community   And so you've in--remind me, you've been in Lexington for how many years now?   Overbeck talks about how the Lexington community has changed over time, becoming less conservative and more accepting.   Being out ; Careful ; Changes ; Character ; Conservative ; Jim Gray ; Judgmental ; Liberal ; Mayors ; Miami (Fla.) ; Open-minded ; Pride Center ; Pride Community Services Organization (PCSO) ; Secrets ; Size   Closeted gays. ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Homosexuality--Social aspects. ; Lexington (Ky.). ; Sexual minorities--Identity. ; Sexual minorities. ; Sexual orientation.     17             3619 Current political administration / Hope for the future   And so earlier you talked a bit about, um, the continued prevalence of male power.   Overbeck discusses her views of the current political administration under Donald Trump. She talks about marrying her wife during the Obama administration. She talks about her hopes for the future. The interview is concluded.   'Helpers' ; Acceptance ; Active ; Activism ; Alternative churches ; Barack Obama ; Communication ; Current administration ; Donald Trump ; Environment ; Fears ; Fred Rogers ; Future ; Gay marriage ; Hopes ; Janet ; Male power ; Marriage ceremony ; Married ; Men ; Mike Pence ; Mr. Rogers ; Rights ; Same-sex marriage ; Scared ; Sons ; Supportive ; Will ; Women   Discrimination. ; Feminism ; Homophobia. ; Homosexuality--Social aspects. ; Lesbianism. ; Lesbians ; Lesbians--United States--Social conditions. ; Lexington (Ky.). ; Marriage ; Politics and government ; Sexual minorities. ; Sexual orientation.     17             interview Mead Overbeck shares her journey as a lesbian. Overbeck discusses her passion for teaching, the environment, and women-identified spaces and groups. Overbeck details her path to identifying as a lesbian over the course of marriage and parenthood.   No transcript.   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              <text>    5.2    2018oh545_lgbtq038 Interview with Jack L. Coffman, September 10, 2018 2018oh545_lgbtq038       lgbtq001 Outsouth: LGBTQ+ Oral History Project Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History, University of Kentucky Libraries    Families. Religion Closeted gays. Gay men. Gay men--Identity. Gay men--Sexual behavior. Homosexuality. Sexual minorities. Sexual minorities--Identity. College environment College students--Attitudes. College students--Conduct of life. College students--Social conditions Universities and colleges. Indiana University Gay couples. Lexington (Ky.). Gay men--Legal status, laws, etc. Homosexuality--Law and legislation. Coming out (Sexual orientation) University of Kentucky Childhood South Bend (Ind.) School discipline Discipline of children Education African Americans--Segregation Vietnam War, 1961-1975--Public opinion Lungs--Cancer. Health. Care of the sick. Same-sex marriage Interpersonal relations Friendship. Physicians--Kentucky Gays--Violence against Jack L. Coffman Adriana Sisko         0      Vimeo         video  &amp;lt ; iframe src=&amp;quot ; https://player.vimeo.com/video/290276268&amp;quot ;  width=&amp;quot ; 640&amp;quot ;  height=&amp;quot ; 360&amp;quot ;  frameborder=&amp;quot ; 0&amp;quot ;  allowfullscreen&amp;gt ; &amp;lt ; /iframe&amp;gt ;        0 Introduction   My name is Adriana Sisko and the date is August 10th.   Jack L. Coffman is introduced. He gives a brief overview of his life.   1960s ; Gay men ; Information technology (IT) ; Partners ; Retired ; South Bend (Ind.) ; University of Kentucky   Gay men--Identity.     17             97 Childhood and early schooling   So what city or town were you born in?   Coffman talks about his childhood in South Bend, Indiana. He talks about attending a parochial school connected to St. Mary's College and the difficulties he experienced there from both the nuns and his classmates. He talks about somehow feeling different from his peers, but says that he was accepted by the African American community. He talks about the role of Catholicism in his life during his childhood and how that changed after the death of his partner of fifty years, Teddy.   Acceptance ; African Americans ; Attendance ; Beliefs ; Bus fare ; Catholic Church ; Catholicism ; Churches ; Dating ; Death ; Different ; Dyslexia ; Elementary schools ; Grade schools ; High schools ; Loss ; Mass ; Notre Dame University ; Nuns ; Parents ; Parochial schools ; Partners ; Picked last ; Punishment ; Sports ; St. Mary's College ; Sundays ; Supervision ; Teddy   Childhood ; Discipline of children ; Education ; Families. ; Religion ; School discipline ; South Bend (Ind.)     17             620 Dating and self-awareness of being a gay man   You mentioned that for a period you dated women, even though obviously at some point you realized you were gay.   Coffman talks about dating women during his adolescence. He talks about his attraction to men and his awareness of being gay and how it was affected by his religion. He talks about his awareness of LGBTQ people and terminology during his youth.   Awareness ; Babysitters ; Bus drivers ; Colleges ; Dates ; Dating ; Different ; Emotional turmoil ; Expectations ; Family ; Lesbians ; Parents ; Partners ; Relationships ; Sexuality ; Social life ; Teddy Richardson ; Teenagers ; Women   Childhood ; Closeted gays. ; Families. ; Gay men--Identity. ; Gay men--Sexual behavior. ; Gay men. ; Homosexuality. ; Religion ; Sexual minorities--Identity. ; Sexual minorities. ; South Bend (Ind.)     17             1041 High school   Um, give me a general sense of high school.   Coffman talks about his negative experiences in high school.   Attention-deficit disorder (ADD) ; Catholic ; Classes ; Difficult ; Dyslexia ; Fights ; Grades ; Graduation ; High schools ; Reading ; Sports   Childhood ; Discipline of children ; Education ; Religion ; School discipline ; South Bend (Ind.)     17             1225 College at Indiana University   And so after you graduated from high school, what was the next step in your life?   Coffman talks about why he enjoyed his college experience at Indiana University much more than high school. He talks about how he discovered his love for Information Technology (IT). He tells stories about being a rebel in college, including lying about his age on his ID card to buy alcohol and forging signatures for his class registration. He talks about his social life in college and the curfews imposed by the college on women students.   1960s ; Acceptance ; Age ; Bars ; Careers ; Class registration ; Class schedules ; Classes ; College majors ; Curfews ; Dates ; Dating ; Degrees ; Dormitories ; Dorms ; Friendships ; Fun ; Gay ; ID cards ; Information technology (IT) ; Instructors ; Men ; Rebellion ; Roommates ; Social life ; Women   College environment ; College students--Alcohol use ; College students--Attitudes. ; College students--Conduct of life. ; College students--Social conditions ; Indiana University ; Universities and colleges.     17             1773 Meeting his partner Teddy   And so, what were you doing in your life once you hit twenty?   Coffman tells the story of how he met his partner of fifty years, Teddy, during college at Indiana University in 1966.   1966 ; Crying ; Dormitories ; Dorms ; Lonely ; Meeting ; Relationships ; Student centers ; Student unions ; Talking ; Teddy Richardson   College environment ; College students--Attitudes. ; College students--Conduct of life. ; College students--Social conditions ; Indiana University ; Universities and colleges.     17             2096 Relationship with his partner Teddy   And so when you graduated you and Teddy are still together at this point?   Coffman talks about being in a motorcycle accident during college. He talks about the labels he and Teddy used for their relationship since it began in 1966, when gay relationships were not accepted in society. He talks about moving into an apartment with Teddy during college and how they kept in touch during the one summer they spent apart.   'Gay lovers' ; Apartments ; Audio tapes ; Careful ; Cautious ; Codes ; Couples ; Doctors ; Friends ; Graduation ; Hiding ; Labels ; Motorcycle accidents ; Relationships ; Singing ; Songs ; Surgery ; Teddy Richardson ; Visiting   Closeted gays. ; College environment ; College students--Attitudes. ; College students--Conduct of life. ; College students--Social conditions ; Gay couples. ; Gay men--Identity. ; Gay men. ; Homosexuality. ; Indiana University ; Sexual minorities--Identity. ; Sexual minorities. ; Universities and colleges.     17             2684 Moving to Lexington, Kentucky   Walk me through what happens in your life once you're moved in together and you're--also that period...   Coffman talks about visiting Lexington when Teddy came for a job interview at Lexington Clinic in 1968. He talks about Teddy's career and accomplishments as an optometrist. He talks about being hired as a systems engineer at National Cash Register.   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He mentions the Stonewall riots, Woodstock, and the moon landing.   Awareness ; Computers ; Different ; Eastern Kentucky University ; Fires ; Good Samaritan Hospital ; Graduating class ; High schools ; Hiring ; Indiana University ; Jobs ; Moon landings ; News ; North ; Riots ; Stonewall riots ; Technology ; University of Kentucky ; Women ; Woodstock   African Americans--Segregation ; African Americans--Social conditions. ; Danville (Ky.) ; Kent State Shootings, Kent, Ohio, 1970 ; Lexington (Ky.). ; Race discrimination. ; Race relations--Kentucky ; Racism ; Vietnam War, 1961-1975 ; Vietnam War, 1961-1975--Protest movements ; Vietnam War, 1961-1975--Public opinion     17             3555 Social life and gay scene in Lexington   And so when you started your life here in Lexington in '69 and in the years following, did you and Teddy make, um--   Coffman talks about his social life and friends in Lexington during the 1960s and 1970s. He describes the gay bar, The Bar, during his early days in Lexington. He talks about how drag queens and gay people could be arrested at this time.   Arrested ; Burnt down ; Conservative ; Dancing ; Drag queens ; Drag shows ; Fires ; Friends ; Gay bars ; Gilded Cage ; Going out ; Hiding ; Reopened ; Social life ; The Bar ; The Living Room   Closeted gays. ; Gay couples. ; Gay men--Identity. ; Gay men--Legal status, laws, etc. ; Gay men. ; Homosexuality--Law and legislation. ; Homosexuality. ; Lexington (Ky.). ; Sexual minorities--Identity. ; Sexual minorities.     17             3926 Teddy's illness   Teddy got sick with cancer nine and a half years before he passed away.   Coffman talks about the difficulty for himself and his partner Teddy during Teddy's nine year battle with lung cancer.   50 years ; Caregivers ; Fifty years ; Grocery stores ; Husbands ; Illnesses ; Lung cancer ; Partners ; Relationships ; Surgery ; Teddy Richardson   Care of the sick. ; Gay couples. ; Health. ; Lungs--Cancer.     17             4079 Marriage ceremony   You mentioned that you all were married.   Coffman describes his marriage ceremony to Teddy in Massachusetts in 2008.   Ceremonies ; Friends ; Marriage license ; Married ; Massachusetts ; Straight people ; Trustees   Gay couples. ; Gay men--Identity. ; Gay men--Legal status, laws, etc. ; Gay men. ; Homosexuality--Law and legislation. ; Homosexuality. ; Marriage ; Same-sex marriage ; Sexual minorities--Identity. ; Sexual minorities.     17             4240 Teddy being outed as gay   And so I have a question that's--it's somewhat backtracking but it's also--   Coffman talks about how his partner Teddy had to hide being gay due to being a doctor. He talks about when Teddy was nominated to be the president of a state association for physicians but was outed as gay and asked to step down. He talks about how he and Teddy danced together at the next association event since they had already been outed anyway. He talks about the reactions to their dancing.   1980s ; Dancing ; Doctors ; Events ; Hiding ; Optometrists ; Outing ; Presidents ; Public ; Reactions ; Sound Bar ; State associations ; State representatives ; Stepping down ; Technical advisors ; Teddy Richardson   Closeted gays. ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Gay couples. ; Gay men--Identity. ; Gay men. ; Homosexuality. ; Lexington (Ky.). ; Physicians--Kentucky ; Sexual minorities--Identity. ; Sexual minorities.     17             4578 Career at the University of Kentucky   Were you open in other ways following your public dancing?   Coffman talks about his career in IT at UK. He talks about coming out at work, his relationships with bosses and coworkers, and why he eventually retired from UK after over twenty years.   1987-2013 ; Awareness ; Bosses ; Careers ; Changes ; Department of Finance ; Drinking ; Early ; Events ; Frankfort (Ky.) ; Friends ; Hiding ; Hours ; Information technology (IT) ; Jobs ; Lying ; Open ; Out ; Retirement ; Timesheets ; Vice presidents   Closeted gays. ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Employment--Kentucky ; Gay men--Identity. ; Gay men. ; Homosexuality. ; Lexington (Ky.). ; Sexual minorities. ; University of Kentucky     17             5087 Changes in Lexington / Hobbies and interests   How about Lexington in general?   Coffman talks about how Lexington has changed from a small country town in the 1960s. He talks about how everything was closed on Sundays in those days. He talks about his interest in technology which led to him owning the first Betamax player and lazer disc player in Lexington. He talks about the attitudes toward LGBTQ people in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida which led to he and Teddy owning a condominium there. He talks about their interest in live theater and movies.   1960s ; 1982 ; Atlanta (Ga.) ; bars ; Betamax players ; Blue laws ; Broadway Opera House ; Changes ; Closing time ; Condominiums ; Country towns ; Early adopters ; Ft. Lauderdale (Fla.) ; Interests ; LaserDisc players ; Movies ; New York ; Older people ; Plays ; Satellite dishes ; Season ticket holders ; Size ; Snowbirds ; Sundays ; Technology ; Television channels ; Theater   Fort Lauderdale (Fla.) ; Gay couples. ; Gay men. ; Hobbies. ; Homosexuality. ; Lexington (Ky.). ; Sexual minorities.     17             5778 Changes in public acceptance of LGBTQ people   I have another big question.   Coffman talks about how public opinions regarding LGBTQ people have changed since the 1960s when people could be arrested for merely being suspected of being gay. He describes the risks of being gay during college at Indiana University. He talks about the court case in Kentucky which led to the law against homosexuality being removed from the books.    &amp;quot ; Runners&amp;quot ;  ; 1964 ; 1990s ; Accepting ; Afraid ; Arrested ; Arrests ; Bloomington (Ind.) ; Careers ; Changes ; Court cases ; Ernesto Scorsone ; Expelled ; Fort Lauderdale (Fla.) ; Ft. Lauderdale (Fla.) ; Gay bars ; Harassment ; Indiana University ; Indianapolis (Ind.) ; Jobs ; Kentucky ; Kentucky Theater ; Police ; Public opinions ; Repercussions ; Risks ; Safe spaces ; Student orientation ; Taunting ; Teddy Richardson   Closeted gays. ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Gay couples. ; Gay men--Identity. ; Gay men--Legal status, laws, etc. ; Gay men. ; Gays--Violence against ; Homosexuality--Law and legislation. ; Homosexuality. ; Lexington (Ky.). ; Sexual minorities--Identity. ; Sexual minorities.     17             6292 Family's awareness of him being a gay man   Oh, and I just thought of a question I wanted to ask earlier, actually.   Coffman talks about his family's awareness of him being gay without ever explicitly telling them. He talks about the acceptance he and Teddy received from his brother's family. He talks about how his sister found out he was gay and told his mother.   Acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS) ; Awareness ; Babysitting ; Brothers ; Children ; Family ; Gay bars ; Human immunodeficiency virus infection (HIV) ; Misconceptions ; Mothers ; Naive ; Parents ; Seafood ; Sisters ; Teddy Richardson   Closeted gays. ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Families. ; Gay couples. ; Gay men--Family relationships--United States. ; Gay men--Identity. ; Gay men. ; Gays--Family relationships. ; Homosexuality. ; Sexual minorities' families. ; Sexual minorities--Identity. ; Sexual minorities.     17             6567 AIDS crisis   Tell me more about that period of the AIDS crisis.   Coffman talks about losing many friends during the AIDS crisis and how it was made worse by Ronald Reagan's actions.   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He talks about Teddy's ministry to prisoners at Blackburn Correctional Facility.   1980 ; Baptist Church ; Baptists ; Blackburn Correctional Facility ; Catholic Church ; Churches ; Competition ; Cults ; Divinity degrees ; Doctors ; Lexington Clinic ; Loss ; Ministry ; Morehead (Ky.) ; Ordained ministers ; Prisoners ; Private practice ; Studying ; Teddy Richardson   Gay couples. ; Gay men. ; Lexington (Ky.). ; Physicians--Kentucky ; Religion ; Sexual minorities.     17             7075 Lessons his parents instilled in him   Earlier you mentioned that there was another story you wanted to tell about--   Coffman talks about the current molestation scandals in the Catholic Church and how his parents taught him that he did not have to do anything he did not want to. He talks about their other lessons regarding the importance of attending college and not doing drugs. He talks about how these lessons affect him today.   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Ross Ewing introduces himself.        Family. ; Gay men. ; Law. ; Same sex-marriage. ; University of Kentucky     17             35 Childhood in Owensboro, Kentucky / Middle school and realizing his attraction to other men    Um, so let's start early on.   Ewing shares his upbringing in Owensboro, Kentucky. He describes his early childhood as well as his elementary school experience in positive terms. He also talks about how the authority figures at the Catholic school he attended as a young teenager were always supportive, appropriate, and kind toward him. However, Ewing also talks about a shift that took place in his life beginning during middle school, when he realized he was interested in other boys in a way that he didn't experience toward girls. Ewing details the inner turmoil that this caused him.    Boyfriends ; Childhood ; Dating ; Elementary schools ; Fathers ; Gay adolescents ; Girlfriends ; Growing up ; Happiness ; Love ; Mothers ; Siblings ; Sisters   Catholic schools. ; Catholicism ; Gay youth ; Owensboro (Ky.) ; Puberty. ; Questioning (Sexual orientation) ; Religion. ; Sexual minority youth     17             560 High school experience   And let's move to high school.   Ewing summarizes his high school experience. He talks about switching from Catholic school to public school, being in love with his heterosexual best friend, and the presence of other gay youth at his public school who were, at least not initially, out. Ewing also discusses his concept, at the time, of his budding sexuality and how other children who called him gay were likely aware of his sexuality before he was.    Derogatory slurs ; Derogatory words ; Emotional connection ; Friendships ; High schools ; Love ; Mothers ; Romance ; School bands ; Slurs ; Teenagers ; Unrequited love   Closeted ; Closeted gays. ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Gay high school students ; Gay youth ; Sexual minority youth     17             799 Lack of knowing other LGBTQ people during childhood / Embracing the word 'gay' / First coming out experiences   And growing up, who was the--was there anyone you knew of that identified or was known as being gay?   Outside of movies, Ewing says, he did not know of anybody who identified as or was known for actually being LGBTQ during his childhood. He also discusses an eye-opening realization regarding his sexuality that he experienced through an episode of the &amp;quot ; Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&amp;quot ;  television series.    Boyfriends ; Ellen DeGeneres ; Friendships ; Girlfriends ; Heaven ; Love ; Popularity ; Romance ; Star Trek Deep Space Nine   Catholicism ; Gay high school students ; Lesbians ; Religion. ; Star trek.     17             1038 Experience coming out to friends and family   And was there any point, and actually I think you mentioned this, was there any point during middle school or high school where you told anyone about these thoughts and feelings?   Ewing discusses the extent to which he divulged his sexual identity to friends and family during his late teenage years. Ewing details the range of reactions he received from friends. He also talks about how his parents reacted when they discovered his sexuality.    Acceptance ; Being outed ; Fathers ; Friendships ; High schools ; Internet ; Mothers ; Outing ; Sons ; Teenagers   Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Gay high school students ; Gay youth     17             1249 Graduating from high school / Transition into college and experience being out at the University of Kentucky    So, when you graduated high school, how did you feel about graduating high school?   Ewing talks about his feelings when he graduated from high school and his transition from high school to college. Ewing shares why he chose to attend the University of Kentucky and his first semester experience there. Ewing talks about meeting other LGBTQ people at the University of Kentucky, particularly once he joined the undergraduate LGBTQ group, then called UK Lambda. Ewing discusses meeting other out gay people for the first time and the fear and anxiety he initially experienced being more broadly out himself. Ewing remarks that the murder of Matthew Shepherd weighed on himself and other LGBTQ-identified people.   Academics ; Acceptance ; Anxiety ; College work ; Community ; Fear ; Friendships ; Governor's Scholars ; Graduating ; High schools ; Life changes ; Matthew Shepherd ; Outness ; Transitions ; UK Lambda   Gay men. ; Homophobia ; Sexual minority college students ; Undergraduate students ; University of Kentucky     17             1647 Majors during undergrad and passion for music   Um, what were your majors in undergrad?   Ewing shares his academic interests during undergrad. He also shares his passion for music, which originated in his childhood. Ewing describes music as an important emotional outlet.   Academics ; Majors ; Minors ; Scholarships   Sexual minority college students ; Undergraduate students ; University of Kentucky     17             1756 The importance of college friendships in coming out and self-acceptance    Walk me through the rest of college.    Ewing discusses how important the friends he met during college were in his coming out process. He details how the support of his friends was helpful in his journey toward self-acceptance. Ewing says that his friends' acceptance made him feel more free to be out and open regarding his sexual identity and gay topics more generally. Ewing describes how he wasn't able to fully deal with his coming out internally at the time, so he externalized it as a political venture.    Acceptance ; Activism ; Being out ; Coming out day ; Friendships ; Greek mythology ; LGBT studies ; LGBTQ studies ; Outness ; UK Lambda ; Undergraduate activism ; Undergraduate thesis   Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Gay men. ; Sexual minority college students ; Undergraduate students ; University of Kentucky     17             2092 Experiences dating during college / Last year of college    And before we get to your last year in undergrad, um, I want to ask, how was dating going at this point in your life?   Ewing discusses his dating life during the latter years of undergrad. He discusses how, by this point in time, he was able to imagine a future for himself in which a happy same-sex relationship was possible. Ewing also shares about a difficult period in his life when a man he had dated and loved disclosed his HIV positive status, and one member of UK Lambda committed suicide and another attempted suicide twice. Ewing talks about how he relied on alcohol during this difficult period, and how his drinking impacted his academic performance and general happiness.    Activism ; Aids Volunteers, Inc. ; Alcoholics in recovery ; Dates ; Dating ; Depression ; Drinking ; Emotional energy ; Emotions ; LGBTQ activism ; Pain ; Romance ; UK Lambda   AIDS (Disease) ; AIDS activists ; Alcoholics--Rehabilitation. ; Alcoholics. ; Alcoholism. ; Gay men. ; Homophobia. ; Sexual minority college students ; Suicide. ; Undergraduate students ; University of Kentucky     17             2462 Law school / LGBTQ activism   Why did you choose law school? Why did you choose to apply to law schools?   Ewing talks about his decision to enroll in law school at the University of Kentucky. He also discusses his increasing commitment to LGBTQ activism during this time. Ewing was a board member of the Fairness Campaign and helped to found UK OUTlaw, an LGBTQ group for law students. He also wrote letters to the University of Kentucky administration that eventually resulted in the committee that created the OUTsource, a student LGBTQ center. During this period, Ewing connected strongly with the Episcopal Church and joined a church board.   LGBT jobs ; LGBTQ jobs ; The OUTsource ; Undergraduate activism ; University of Kentucky College of Law   Episcopal Church. ; Gay men. ; Gays--Employment--Law and legislation ; Law schools. ; Lawyers. ; Religion. ; Sexual minority college students ; Suicide. ; University of Kentucky     17             2681 Meeting his now-husband and introducing him to his parents    So you mentioned that you and your now-husband met through Fairness somehow?   Ewing talks about meeting his now husband, David, through his involvement with the Fairness Campaign. He also discusses the importance of a model of a happy, monogamous same-sex relationship for the first time. Ewing tells the story of his parents meeting his future husband, which Ewing now terms his third and final coming out.    &amp;quot ; Professionally gay&amp;quot ;  ; Acceptance ; Dating ; Fairness Campaign ; Husbands ; LGBT activism ; LGBTQ activism ; Love ; Parents ; Partners ; Student representative   Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Gay men. ; LGBTQ business enterprises     17             2937 Seeking a job in law / Working in family law / Opening his own law firm    So, you finish law school up. What happens next in your life? Like, what's sort of the next step that happens?   Ewing describes his job search toward the end of law school, and how he felt concerned that he may be discounted for jobs on the basis of his resume, which was laden with various LGBTQ-related legal efforts and activism. Larger corporate law firms did not demonstrate an interest in hiring him at that time, Ewing recalls. Ewing talks about the first job offer he accepted as a law clerk for Judge Jo Ann Wise, who worked in family law. Ewing reflects positively on this experience and remarks that he has worked in family law ever since. Ewing briefly summarizes the rest of his job history after working with Judge Wise. Additionally, Ewing talks about his experience working for one particular unnamed law firm in which he had a bad experience as a result of judgment of his sexual identity. Ewing discusses how, at the time of this interview, he finally works at his own law firm as a family law attorney. He shares his most rewarding experiences working for himself thus far.    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Acceptance ; Affirmation ; Churches ; Commitment ceremony ; Community ; Episcopal Church ; Faith traditions ; Family ; Husbands ; Integrity USA ; Support   Gay men. ; Marriage. ; Same sex-marriage.     17             3497 Current social circles / Changes in the LGBTQ community over the years   I'm gonna move into a couple more big picture--   Ewing describes his social circles. He also discusses how he thinks the LGBTQ community has changed over the years. Ewing emphasizes the importance of allyship to the community, and the allies that have been particularly important to himself and Kentucky more generally. He elaborates on the cost that those early allies paid in terms of employment and reputation.    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Acceptance ; Anxiety ; Being out ; Critical mass ; Future ; Hope ; LGBT community ; LGBTQ community ; Looking forward ; Outness   Closeted ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Gay men. ; Role models.     17             interview Ross Ewing, a family law attorney at his own law firm, discusses growing up gay with an absence of gay role models, the importance of ally-ship, and the support the Episcopal Church has given him and his husband. Ewing also shares about his time as an undergraduate and law student at the University of Kentucky, his legal and activist efforts in benefit of the LGBTQ community particularly in Kentucky, and meeting his husband through working with the Fairness Campaign.   No transcript.   All rights to the interviews, including but not restricted to legal title, copyrights and literary property rights, have been transferred to the University of Kentucky Libraries. video Interviews may only be reproduced with permission from Louie B. 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Morgan Fry's mother had begun her first relationship with a woman, and later the family moved to Los Angeles, California where he experienced a physical assault for his attire.    California ; Culture shock ; Farms ; Gay ; Kansas ; Lesbians ; Queer   California ; Kansas     17             824 California   Um, so first, um, how old were you when you moved to L.A.?   Fry talks about moving to California, the culture shock, and the difficult relationship with his mother. The first year in Los Angeles, he isolated himself and adjusted to being in a big city. At age 16, he decided to move out alone to Sacramento where he found himself homeless for 3 weeks at a county fair.    California ; Carnivals ; Homelessness ; Los Angeles (Calif.) ; Orange County (Calif.) ; Sacramento (Calif.)   Carnival     17             1293 First relationship   Alright, so first relationship. Tell me about that.   Fry's first relationship was born from the vulnerability of wanting a home. Fry developed a German accent and revealed little of himself, resulting in distrust and leading to the end of the relationship.   Carnivals ; County fairs ; Gay ; Homelessness ; Relationships   Couples. ; Dating (Social customs) ; Interpersonal relations     17             1615 Graduating high school and beginning college    So what happens once you graduate high school?   After graduating high school, Fry entered college and moved in with his high school friends in an apartment. He went to college because of his family's expectations, however he learned more out in the world than at college.    Apartments ; California ; Colleges ; Graduation ; High schools ; Living alone   Universities and colleges.     17             1740 Military career   Uh, I joined the military to get college money.   Fry decided to join the military in order to earn college money. He committed for two years, and remained for three in the reserves. He always had a girlfriend for social and career protection. While stationed in Louisville, he earned enough money to live off base but later a horse fell on him, causing him to never finish college.    Colleges ; Girlfriends ; Horses ; Louisville (Ky.) ; Military ; Money   Closeted gays. ; Couples. ; Dating (Social customs) ; Gay men--Identity. ; Gay men--Relations with heterosexual women ; Gay men--Relations with heterosexuals ; Homosexuality in the workplace. ; Homosexuality. ; Interpersonal relations ; Military service, Voluntary--United States. ; Sexual minorities.     17             2456 Moving back to California and coming out   And, uh, I moved to California, um, 'cause I had seen the wealth out there.    Fry talks about what it was like to move back to California after the army and college. Moving from Los Angeles to San Francisco, and finally to Sacramento in order to help his sister with her kids. Fry came out and finally felt safe after joining the Gay Men's Chorus.   California ; Coming out ; Finance ; Los Angeles (Calif.) ; Sacramento (Calif.) ; San Francisco (Calif.)   Closeted gays. ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Gay men--Identity. ; Gay men--Relations with heterosexuals ; Homosexuality. ; Sexual minorities.     17             3323 Atlanta: &amp;quot ; The Wild Days&amp;quot ;    I had the ability to move to Atlanta, through a promotion, and I took it.    Fry moved from Sacramento to Atlanta through a promotion, where he felt free enough to have fun. He worked in real estate, and while the nightlife in Atlanta was fun, the housing market crashed.   Atlanta (Ga.) ; Georgia ; Market crashes ; Real estate ; Sacramento (Calif.) ; Sexual exploration   Gay community ; Gay couples. ; Gay men--Identity. ; Homosexuality. ; Housing ; Sexual minorities.     17             3654 Moving to Lexington, Kentucky   And by the way, um, by then Bryan had moved to Lexington.   Fry talks about the decision to move to Lexington to be closer to his partner Bryan, and soon after they got married.   Horses ; Kentucky   Kentucky ; Lexington (Ky.)     17             3877 HIV    Um, Bryan and I--Bryan had brought, uh, with him from California, he brought David with him.   Fry talks about taking care of Bryan's former partner David during his final days of suffering from HIV and brain cancer. He talks about contracting HIV himself due to an accident with one of David's injections. After being tested and confirming he was HIV positive, Fry began to look outside of himself ;  he wanted to leave an impact on the world.    Hospice ; Human immunodeficiency viruses (HIV) ; Needles ; Veteran's Administration   Cancer ; Diagnosis ; HIV infections ; HIV-positive gay men     17             4237 Community involvement   And I just thought to myself, &amp;quot ; There's got to be a stronger connection to the world than, than this.&amp;quot ;    Fry began to be more involved with the community. He started a church, then became a trustee at Bluegrass United Church of Christ, volunteering, and working at 3-4 non-profit organizations. He talks about Lexington being a safe community for members of the LGBTQ community in comparison to Atlanta and other cities.    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Fry agrees that Lexington is a safe place for LGBTQ+ community members, and although there are still changes to be made, the city is making progress. Love gives him hope for the future.    Future ; Grindr (Dating application) ; Kentucky ; Love   Gay community ; Gay men--United States--Social conditions. ; Gays--United States--Social conditions. ; Homosexuality--Social aspects. ; Kentucky ; Lexington (Ky.) ; Love ; Sexual minorities.     17             interview Morgan Fry shares about his life from growing up on a farm to moving to various large cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Atlanta. Fry discusses how he always knew he was gay and the effort he had to make to conceal his sexuality during his military service. Fry also talks about the variety of careers he has succeeded in, his volunteer work with AVOL and the Rainbow League and other non-profits, and his happiness in his current relationship.   No transcript.   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