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James &amp;quot ; Jim&amp;quot ;  Dinkle is introduced and gives a brief explanation of his life from his birth in Ashland, Kentucky, his childhood in Frankfort, and his career in politics.   Careers ; Chicago (Ill.) ; Fathers ; Governor Wallace Wilkinson ; Maine ; Mayor Richard M. Dailey ; Moving ; Redevelopment ; Student government ; Telecommunications ; Travel ; University of Kentucky ; Versailles (Ky.)   Ashland (Ky.) ; Childhood ; Families. ; Frankfort (Ky.) ; Occupations     17             163 Experience of coming out   So we know that for many LGBTQ individuals the first time that someone comes out is a significant life milestone.   Dinkle talks about his experience of discovering his sexuality and coming out. He talks about how he was affected by living in a conservative environment, especially in high school. He talks about an attempt to create an LGBT organization on the University of Kentucky campus in the early 1980s.   Acceptance ; Bomb threats ; Chicago (Ill.) ; Childhood ; Colleges ; Conservative community ; Freedom ; Gay ; Gradual ; High schools ; Identity ; Kentucky ; Partners ; Rural community ; Student government ; Student organizations ; Taboo ; University of Kentucky   Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Gay men--Identity. ; Gays--Identity. ; Homosexuality--Social aspects. ; Sexual minorities--Identity.     17             350 Role in student government at the University of Kentucky / Experience as a gay man in the Lexington, Kentucky community   So you've, you've mentioned a little bit about, um, the significant impact you had as a, a member of the Board of Trustees and Student Body President.   Dinkle talks about his role at the University of Kentucky as the Student Body President and a student member of the Board of Trustees. He talks about places in Lexington, Kentucky that he felt were accepting of LGBTQ people, as well as the fears he felt about coming out.   1982 ; Acceptance ; Board of Trustees ; Campus ; Careers ; Careful ; Faith ; Families ; Fears ; Fraternities ; Gay bars ; Home ; Hunter Presbyterian Church ; Kentucky ; LGBTQ centers ; Office of LGBTQ* Resources ; Organizations ; Parents ; Sexual harassment policies ; Student body presidents ; Tolerant ; Welcoming ; Young people   College environment ; College students--Social conditions ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Gay community ; Homosexuality--Social aspects. ; Lexington (Ky.). ; Religion ; Sexual minority students. ; University of Kentucky     17             799 Bill Sturgill and the University of Kentucky Board of Trustees   So can you tell us a bit about, um, the year you graduated from UK and what you did in the, the decade or so following that graduation?   Dinkle talks about his role at the University of Kentucky as a student member of the Board of Trustees and how he was influenced by fellow member Bill Sturgill.   Agendas ; Bill Sturgill ; Board of Trustees ; Chairman ; Environment ; Graduation ; Integrity ; Mining ; Respect ; Robinson Forest ; Student body presidents   Coal mines and mining--Environmental aspects ; College administrators ; College environment ; College student government ; Universities and colleges--Administration. ; University of Kentucky     17             985 Current life   So can you tell us, uh, a bit more about what you're up to now?   Dinkle talks about living in Maine, his current job, and his feelings on the LGBTQ center at the University of Kentucky.   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Dinkle talks about how he and his family were personally impacted by the AIDS epidemic.   AIDS epidemic ; AIDS Quilt ; Coming out (Sexual orientation) ; Cousins ; Family life ; Kentucky governor's office ; Quarantine   AIDS (Disease) ; Families. ; HIV infections     17             1452 Societal progress regarding LGBTQ issues   The only other things I, I would add is just to share a story with you if you don't mind.   Dinkle talks about his parents' views on LGBTQ issues. He talks about how society's opinions have changed regarding LGBTQ people since his childhood.   Acceptance ; Alone ; Bar scene ; Community ; Fathers ; High schools ; LGBTQ centers ; Lifestyles ; Limited ; Mothers ; Neighbors ; Office of LGBTQ* Resources ; Parents ; Prejudice ; Progress ; Taboo ; Transgender community ; Versailles (Ky.)   Families. ; Gay community ; Gay rights movement ; Gay rights--United States. ; Gay rights. ; Homosexuality--Social aspects. ; Sexual minorities.     17             1808 More on the University of Kentucky Board of Trustees   But again I, I--again when I was talking about Bill Sturgill earlier I don't mean to get emotional.   Dinkle talks more about his role at the University of Kentucky as the Student Body President and a student member of the Board of Trustees. He talks about some of the Board's members. The interview is concluded.   Bill Sturgill ; Board members ; Board of Trustees ; Diverse ; Integrity ; President Otis Singletary ; Progressive ; Student body presidents ; Sturgill Center   College administrators ; College environment ; College student government ; Universities and colleges--Administration. ; University of Kentucky     17             interview Dinkle talks about his experience of discovering his sexuality and coming out. He talks about how he was affected by living in a conservative environment, and an attempt to create an LGBT organization on the University of Kentucky campus in the early 1980s. Dinkle talks about his role at the University of Kentucky as the Student Body President and a student member of the Board of Trustees. He talks about places in Lexington, Kentucky that he felt were accepting of LGBTQ people, as well as the fears he felt about coming out. He talks about various aspects of his family life, including how they were impacted by the AIDS epidemic. He talks about how society's opinions have changed regarding LGBTQ people since his childhood.  No transcript.   All rights to the interviews, including but not restricted to legal title, copyrights and literary property rights, have been transferred to the University of Kentucky Libraries. video Interviews may only be reproduced with permission from Louie B. 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              <text>    5    2017oh232_lgbtq001 Interview with Gilda Wabbit (Sam Themer), April 5, 2017 2017oh232_lgbtq001   ohlgbtq Kentucky LGBTQ Oral History Collection lgbtq001 Kentucky LGBTQ Oral History Project Louie B. Nunn Center for Oral History, University of Kentucky Libraries (Exhibit)    Coming out (Sexual orientation) Gays--Family relationships. Music Performing arts--Kentucky. Lexington (Ky.). Gay community Sexual minorities--Identity. Gays--United States--Social conditions. Homosexuality--Religious aspects. Kentucky--Religion New York (N.Y.) Drag shows Gay culture. Homosexuality--Social aspects. Female impersonators. 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She talks about often being cast as villains and the trope that villains are often portrayed with stereotypically homosexual qualities.   &amp;quot ; Theater kid&amp;quot ;  ; Bachelor's degrees ; Barriers ; Casting ; Friends ; Opera ; Out of place ; Tropes ; University of Kentucky (UK) ; Villains ; Vocal music program ; Voice ; Weird   Homosexuality--Social aspects. ; Music ; Performing arts--Kentucky. ; Sexual minority college students ; University of Kentucky   38.033333, -84.5 17 University of Kentucky           485 Safe spaces in the Lexington community   So, so expanding beyond, um, UK and your time, um, in Lexington and, and sort of the broader community...   Gilda Wabbit talks about her tense relationship with Kentucky, partially due to feeling discouraged by various parts of the community in regards to being her true self. She talks about religious conservatism in Kentucky, but also discusses her acceptance within her childhood church as well as the church she later joined, First Presbyterian. She talks about safe spaces within local bars and the kinship between queer people.   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Gilda Wabbit talks about how she became interested in drag after she moved to New York. She describes her first time performing drag. She talks about participating in competitions and the advice she received about drag as a career. She talks about the decision to change her stage name from Beverly Leslie Sills to Gilda Wabbit, and how she has made drag her full-time job.    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The meme was originally meant to be a negative message about liberals, but was turned around into a positive message about diversity and acceptance of others. Gilda Wabbit talks about doing interviews with various media outlets about political issues surrounding the meme.   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She talks about how the show RuPaul's Drag Race affected her life. She talks about doing speaking engagements and being grateful for the opportunity to speak to people about acceptance and being empathetic toward one another. The interview is concluded.   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She tells the story of coming out to her parents in high school after undergoing nasal surgery. Gilda Wabbit talks about her experience at UK, majoring in opera. She talks about feeling out of place even in the arts program. She talks about often being cast as villains and the trope that villains portray stereotypically homosexual qualities. Gilda Wabbit talks about her tense relationship with Kentucky, partially due to feeling discouraged by various parts of the community in regards to being her true self. She talks about religious conservatism in Kentucky, but also discusses her acceptance within her childhood church as well as the church she later joined, First Presbyterian. She talks about safe spaces within local bars and the kinship between queer people.   Gilda Wabbit talks about how she became interested in drag after she had moved to New York. She describes her first time performing drag. She talks about participating in competitions and the advice she received about drag as a career. She talks about the decision to change her stage name from Beverly Leslie Sills to Gilda Wabbit, and how she has made drag her fulltime job.  Gilda Wabbit talks about a photo that was taken of her on the subway sitting next to a woman in traditional modesty garb. The photo was posted on Instagram and eventually became a meme. The meme was originally meant to be a negative message about liberals, but was turned around into a positive message about diversity and acceptance of others. Gilda Wabbit talks about doing interviews with various media outlets about political issues surrounding the meme.  Gilda Wabbit talks about doing drag as her fulltime job. She talks about how the show RuPaul's Drag Race affected her life. She talks about doing speaking engagements and being grateful for the opportunity to speak to people about acceptance and being empathetic toward one another.   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Gilda Wabbit talks about how she became interested in drag after she had moved to New York. She describes her first time performing drag. She talks about participating in competitions and the advice she received about drag as a career. She talks about the decision to change her stage name from Beverly Leslie Sills to Gilda Wabbit, and how she has made drag her fulltime job.&#13;
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