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00:00:02 - Thoroughbred yearling sales

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Partial Transcript: Okay, this is Kim Lady Smith.

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield, beginning her second interview, talks about the Thoroughbred horse sale industry and the huge economic influences of some of the major buyers.

Keywords: Bloodlines; Horse sales; Jobs; Keeneland sales; Money; Saratoga sales; Sheikh Mohammed Al Maktoum; Three Chimneys Farm; Yearlings

Subjects: Āl Maktūm, Muḥammad ibn Rāshid, 1949-; Coolmore Stud.; Fasig-Tipton Co.; Horse buyers; Horse farms--Kentucky; Horse grooms.; Horse industry; Keeneland (Lexington, Ky.); Northern Dancer (Race horse); Spendthrift Farm; Thoroughbred horse

00:07:40 - Horse sale ethics

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Partial Transcript: Um, another thing that, that we talked about in our last interview and, and has come up in several interviews I've, uh--

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield discusses some of the changes in the Thoroughbred horse sale industry from past unethical practices, including commissions and honesty regarding health and physical attributes.

Keywords: Changes; Clay, Robert; Commissions; Ethics; Honesty; Horse sales; Lundy, J.T.; Radiographs; Scoping; Steroids; Surgeries; Trust; X-rays

Subjects: Calumet Farm; Horse buyers; Thoroughbred horse

00:10:40 - Working for Mr. Robert Clay and Three Chimneys Farm

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Partial Transcript: I'm going to follow that, that line of, of thinking for a few minutes.

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield explains that she enjoys working with Clay and Three Chimneys Farm because of the priority placed on honesty and ethics over profit.

Keywords: Clay, Robert; Ethics; Honesty; Integrity; Profit; Rosenberg, Dan; Three Chimneys Farm; Work

Subjects: Horse farms.; Horse industry; Horsemen and horsewomen; Thoroughbred horse

00:12:55 - Meeting Dan Rosenberg / Working for Melvin Cinnamon

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Partial Transcript: Now how did you meet Dan?

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield talks about how she came to know Rosenberg, and begins talking about her experiences working in the horse industry as a woman through her experience working for Cinnamon.

Keywords: Cinnamon, Melvin; Friends; Overbrook Farm; Rosenberg, Dan; Three Chimneys Farm; W.T. Young Farm; Work ethic

Subjects: Calumet Farm; Horse industry; Horsemen and horsewomen; Women in horse sports

00:14:21 - Women's connections with horses

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Partial Transcript: You know I have heard that from people who have worked with women over the years, they have, might have been, um, hesitant at first but are not so much now.

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield shares her opinion that women have a natural connection with horses, perhaps through a more instinctual mothering feeling and not having a need to prove their strength.

Keywords: Dedication; Strength; Veterinary students; Work; Work ethic

Subjects: Horsemen and horsewomen; Women in horse sports

00:15:38 - Women and men working the stallion barn

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Partial Transcript: Put this back on you, when I was here last time, um, there was a young woman that came in and you told me that she was the first female you had hired to work in the stallion barn.

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield talks about her experience hiring a woman, working with other women, and the difficulties of the working relationships between men and women in an environment like the stallion barn.

Keywords: Dangerous professions; Gainsborough Farm; Hiring; Three Chimneys Farm

Subjects: Horsemen and horsewomen; Stallions; Thoroughbred horse; Women in horse sports

00:18:27 - Becoming stallion manager at Three Chimneys Farm

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Partial Transcript: Alright, well let's, let's take you to when you, uh, came to Three Chimneys. You said it was in 2000?

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield talks about how she became stallion manager at Three Chimneys Farms and how she wanted the job because she wanted to do more in the breeding industry and Three Chimneys had a strong reputation.

Keywords: Gainsborough Farm; Hansel (Race horse); Homebreds; Lanter, Wes; Overbrook Farm; Reputations; Rosenberg, Dan; Stallion managers; Three Chimneys Farm

Subjects: Horse breeders; Horse farms--Kentucky; Seattle Slew (Race horse), 1974-2002.; Stallions; Thoroughbred horse

00:21:19 - First two weeks at Three Chimneys Farm

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Partial Transcript: Alright, so what was it like when you came here?

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield describes coming to work at Three Chimneys Farm at the beginning of breeding season and right when Silver Charm came. She talks about not remembering too many problems, being a stickler about cleanliness, and the nature of moving from job to job in this line of work.

Keywords: Breeding sheds; Jobs; Silver Charm (Race horse); Three Chimneys Farms; Work

Subjects: Horse breeders; Horse farms; Horse grooms; Stallions; Thoroughbred horse--Breeding--Kentucky

00:24:15 - Challenges in the breeding shed

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Partial Transcript: So, um, you'd mentioned Silver Charm--

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield covers the challenges associated with horse breeding. She talks about the big problem with low libido, and how they can work to navigate that. She also talks about needing to basically train some stallions to breed. Then she discusses various injuries and physical issues that can be problems to navigate, veterinary involvement, and regular screenings to ensure fertility and readiness in stallions and mares.

Keywords: Capote (Race horse); Challenges; Danzig (Race horse); Injuries; Maidens; Seattle Song (Race horse); Silver Charm (Race horse); Storm Cat (Race horse); Teasers; Three Chimneys Farm

Subjects: Fertility; Horse breeders; Horse farms; Horse owners; Libido; Mares; Mr. Prospector (Race horse); Seattle Slew (Race horse), 1974-2002.; Smarty Jones (Race horse); Stallions--Breeding; Thoroughbred horse--Breeding; Veterinarians

00:35:57 - Seattle Slew's breeding career and surgeries

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Partial Transcript: Well, um, let's talk about Seattle Slew.

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield talks about Seattle Slew. She discusses his temperament, his grooms, his breeding career, his multiple surgeries and health issues, and his death.

Keywords: Breeding sheds; Compressed spinal cords; Dr. Barrie Grant; Equilibrium; Hill 'n' Dale Farm; Rood & Riddle Equine Hospital; Surgeries; Temperaments; Three Chimneys Farm; Wade, Tom

Subjects: Fertility; Horse breeders; Horse farms--Kentucky; Horse grooms; Seattle Slew (Race horse), 1974-2002.; Stallions--Breeding; Thoroughbred horse--Breeding; University of California, Davis. Center for Equine Health; Veterinarians

00:47:42 - Ownership and syndication of stallions

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Partial Transcript: Um, so when we lost Seattle Slew, who was here then?

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield explains the general ownership or syndication of breeding stallions, and talks about the practice of sending horses to the southern hemisphere for a second breeding season.

Keywords: Capote (Race horse); Clay, Robert; Daily care; Darley; Dynaformer (Race horse); Fusaichi Pegasus (Race horse); Gainsborough Farm; Rahy (Race horse); Sheikh Maktoum; Sheikh Mohammed Al Maktoum; Silver Charm (Race horse); Southern hemisphere breeding seasons; Stallion Fund; Street Sense (Race horse); Three Chimneys Farm

Subjects: Coolmore Stud.; Horse breeders; Horse farms; Horse owners; Horse syndication; Stallions--Breeding; Thoroughbred horse--Breeding

00:51:44 - Smarty Jones (Race horse)

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Partial Transcript: Well, I have to ask you about getting Smarty Jones.

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield talks about Smarty Jones coming to Three Chimneys Farm and how the public interest and tours increased immensely.

Keywords: Chapman, Pat; Chapman, Roy; Clay, Robert; Elliot, Stuart; Public tours; Rosenberg, Dan; Servis, John; Spokesperson; Stallion managers; Temperaments; Three Chimneys Farm

Subjects: Horse farms; Horse industry; Horse owners; Horse trainers; Jockeys; Smarty Jones (Race horse); Stallions--Breeding; Thoroughbred horse--Breeding; Women in horse sports

00:59:21 - Dynaformer (Race horse)

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Partial Transcript: Now let me ask you about Dynaformer now.

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield talks about Dynaformer's aggressive personality and how siring Barbaro increased his public attention.

Keywords: Aggressive; Dynaformer (Race horse); Personalities; Stud fees; Temperaments; Three Chimneys Farm

Subjects: Barbaro (Race horse); Horse breeders; Mares; Stallions--Breeding

01:01:44 - Being in a management position

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Partial Transcript: Now, um, one of the things--and as I've been reading about Three Chimneys, um, talking about the staff retreats and--is the management style here different in any significant way from what you experienced before?

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield talks about different management styles and why she prefers to be in a position where she is actively involved in decision making. She also talks about how she manages others through a style of teaching and mentoring.

Keywords: Changes; Clay, Robert; Glass, Shane; Meetings; Mentoring; Rahy (Race horse); Stallion managers; Strategies; Teaching; Three Chimneys Farm

Subjects: Horse breeders; Horse farms; Horse grooms; Management; Stallions--Breeding; Thoroughbred horse

01:06:55 - Hiring staff

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Partial Transcript: What do you look for in people you hire?

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield talks about what she looks for when hiring people to work at the farm.

Keywords: Broodmares; Dedication; Hiring employees; Jobs; Night watchmen; References; Stallion barns; Three Chimneys Farm; Work; Work ethic; Yearlings

Subjects: Employee selection.; Employment; Horse farms; Horse grooms; Horsemen and horsewomen; Thoroughbred horse; Watchmen

01:09:57 - Kentucky Equine Management Internship (KEMI) Program

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Partial Transcript: Oh, an organization that, uh, I think you're associated with at least from everything I've read about you, the Kentucky Equine Management Intern--

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield talks about the Kentucky Equine Management Internship Program and how important it is to have an organization which can help get people in management positions who have the skills, but perhaps not the opportunities, as well as teach people about the industry as a whole and the roles and jobs which are involved.

Keywords: Hard work; Jobs; Kentucky Equine Management Internship Program (KEMI); Mucking stalls; Young people

Subjects: Horse farms; Horse grooms; Horse industry; Horsemen and horsewomen; Lexington (Ky.); Managers; Mexicans

01:14:57 - Big Brothers Big Sisters of America / Life Adventure Center

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Partial Transcript: Well, the other organization, uh, Big Brothers Big Sisters, does that have any relationship with, with horses, or do you--is this just something you got interested in?

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield talks about her involvement with Big Brothers Big Sisters and Life Adventure Center, and how important she thinks it is to make time to help others, particularly young people. She also mentions the charitable giving committee at Three Chimneys Farm.

Keywords: Big Brothers Big Sisters of the Bluegrass; Board of directors; Board presidents; Charitable giving committee; Clay, Robert; Equine therapy; Life Adventure Center; Mentors; Orphans; Prevention; The Cleveland Home; Three Chimneys Farm

Subjects: Big Brothers/Big Sisters of America; Charity; Children; Girls; Horse industry; Horses; Mentoring; Versailles (Ky.); Volunteers

01:22:24 - Being a woman today in the Thoroughbred industry

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Partial Transcript: Um, I'm going to take you back to, uh, issues of being a female in this, in this business.

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield talks about the difficulties of being a woman in the industry, particularly in the breeding area, but also recognizes that it has become easier. She talks about the atmosphere in the breeding shed in relationship to gender roles and stereotypes.

Keywords: Female veterinarians; Gender roles; Gender stereotypes; Opportunities; Sheikh Maktoum; Sheikh Mohammed Al Maktoum; Shop talk; Three Chimneys Farm; Trash talk

Subjects: Horse breeders; Horse industry; Horsemen and horsewomen; Husbands; Management; Stallions; Veterinarians; Women in horse sports

01:28:54 - Misconceptions and violence in the breeding shed

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Partial Transcript: There was another thing, I've heard a lot about various superstitions. Was there ever any, any superstitions associated with having a woman in the stallion barn?

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield talks about a common misconception that women shouldn't work with the stallions because during menstruation because they might arouse the stallions. She also talks about how the breeding shed can be a violent experience and how her team manages the various roles.

Keywords: Breeding sheds; Embarrassments; Gainsborough Farm; Maiden mares; Night watchmen; Roles; Stallion barns; Superstitions; Teams; Three Chimneys Farm; Violence; Violent

Subjects: Mares; Menstruation; Ovulation; Pheromones; Stallions--Breeding; Women in horse sports

01:32:49 - Problems in the horse racing industry today

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Partial Transcript: Well, let's talk a little bit about the industry in general 'cause I know you're pretty passionate about the industry as a whole and not just your job.

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield talks about some of the issues she sees with the horse racing industry currently, which are a lackluster fan base, track surface changes, and not having a central governing body voice to answer to the public's concern about recent catastrophic injuries at the track.

Keywords: Big Brown (Race horse); Catastrophic injuries; Day, Pat; Fan bases; Geldings; Polytrack; Public attention; Racetrack surfaces; Steroids

Subjects: Athletes; Churchill Downs (Louisville, Ky. : Racetrack); Eight Belles (Race horse); Horse industry; Horse racing; Jockeys; Keeneland (Lexington, Ky.); NASCAR (Association); Thoroughbred horse

01:37:14 - Changes in the Thoroughbred horse breeding industry

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Partial Transcript: In terms of breeding, um, now I know that you are not into the pedigree--

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield talks about changes in the racing industry have impacted the breeding side of things. She specifically discusses how increasing numbers of elective and corrective surgeries have made breeding selections more difficult because you don't really know the real conformation of the horse to hypothesize what the offspring might inherit.

Keywords: Baffert, Bob; Changes; Delicate; Elective surgeries; Injuries; Less bone; Real Quiet (Race horse); Three Chimneys Farm

Subjects: Eight Belles (Race horse); Horse breeders; Horse industry; Horse racing; Mares; Native Dancer (Race horse); Offspring; Stallions; Thoroughbred horse--Breeding; Thoroughbred horse--Pedigrees

01:40:02 - Big Brown (Race horse)

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Partial Transcript: Now, uh, Three Chimneys of course is in the news with Big Brown.

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield talks about the excitement surrounding Big Brown's success on the racetrack and looking forward to standing him at Three Chimneys Farm after the Breeder's Cup.

Keywords: Big Brown (Race horse); Controversies; Desormeaux, Kent; Dutrow Jr., Richard; Lewis Michael (Race horse); News; Rahy (Race horse); Steroids; Three Chimneys Farm; Turf racing

Subjects: Breeders' Cup Championship Day races; Horse racing; Jockeys; Kentucky Derby; Preakness Stakes; Retirement.; Stallions--Breeding; Thoroughbred horse; Triple Crown (U.S. horse racing)

01:43:09 - Veterinarians

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Partial Transcript: Um, I want to take you back to one thing we've, uh--didn't talk about and then I'll let you, let you get done here.

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield lists some of the veterinarians who she respects in the industry and talks a little about the increased presence of veterinarians and medical care in the horse racing and breeding industries.

Keywords: Broodmares; Dr. Alex Harthill; Dr. Dave Fishback; Dr. Doug Byars; Dr. Larry Bramlage; Dr. Michael Osborne; Gainsborough Farm; Integrity task force; Medications; North Ridge Farm; References; Resumes; Stallions barns; Surgeries; Ultrasounds

Subjects: Calumet Farm; Horse breeders; Horse grooms; Horse industry; Horse racing; Thoroughbred horse--Breeding; Veterinarians

01:48:11 - Proudest accomplishments and best moments

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Partial Transcript: A couple kind of final questions, in, in all your years in working in the industry, what accomplishments are you most proud of?

Segment Synopsis: Hatfield talks about her accomplishments and what she has enjoyed most about working in the horse industry.

Keywords: Accomplishments; Cinnamon, Melvin; Enjoyment; Friends; Mentors; People; Truth; Veterinary schools; Young women

Subjects: Big Brothers/Big Sisters of America; Horse industry; Horsemen and horsewomen; Horses; Kentucky; Mentoring; Role models; Thoroughbred horse; Women in horse sports